Glasgow International College
Hi guys!
I'd like to apply to the University of Glasgow for a Foundation year (Engineering) at the Glasgow International College. I'm an EU student, but it's actually not really my dream to spend one year with only foreigners in Scotland, so I'd like to have some Scottish/English students in my course. But since it's called Glasgow International College, I'm not sure about this.
That's their website: http://www.kic.org.uk/glasgow/how-to-apply/ .
Do you guys have any information?
And I do not find much information about this foundation year in general, as I know there will be English lessons and Engineering-preparatory lessons - right? So are they going to repeat everything I learned in my German secondary school?
Thanks!
I'd like to apply to the University of Glasgow for a Foundation year (Engineering) at the Glasgow International College. I'm an EU student, but it's actually not really my dream to spend one year with only foreigners in Scotland, so I'd like to have some Scottish/English students in my course. But since it's called Glasgow International College, I'm not sure about this.
That's their website: http://www.kic.org.uk/glasgow/how-to-apply/ .
Do you guys have any information?
And I do not find much information about this foundation year in general, as I know there will be English lessons and Engineering-preparatory lessons - right? So are they going to repeat everything I learned in my German secondary school?
Thanks!
Original post by samman282
Hi guys!
I'd like to apply to the University of Glasgow for a Foundation year (Engineering) at the Glasgow International College. I'm an EU student, but it's actually not really my dream to spend one year with only foreigners in Scotland, so I'd like to have some Scottish/English students in my course. But since it's called Glasgow International College, I'm not sure about this.
That's their website: http://www.kic.org.uk/glasgow/how-to-apply/ .
Do you guys have any information?
And I do not find much information about this foundation year in general, as I know there will be English lessons and Engineering-preparatory lessons - right? So are they going to repeat everything I learned in my German secondary school?
Thanks!
I'd like to apply to the University of Glasgow for a Foundation year (Engineering) at the Glasgow International College. I'm an EU student, but it's actually not really my dream to spend one year with only foreigners in Scotland, so I'd like to have some Scottish/English students in my course. But since it's called Glasgow International College, I'm not sure about this.
That's their website: http://www.kic.org.uk/glasgow/how-to-apply/ .
Do you guys have any information?
And I do not find much information about this foundation year in general, as I know there will be English lessons and Engineering-preparatory lessons - right? So are they going to repeat everything I learned in my German secondary school?
Thanks!
The course is for international students, yes. I would hazard a guess that most of the students would be from Asian countries (namely China) and from countries where their school qualification hasn't allowed them to progress directly into the first year of a degree course. UK universities do not consider the high school leaving qualifications of some countries to be comparable to the A level/Scottish Higher.Given the Abitur is considered very highly by admissions departments it's likely that you will have already covered the mathematics material at school.
What score did you get in your Abitur? Have you considered applying directly to a university to start in the first year? In your situation, this might make more sense. Alternatively, you can apply to do a HND or HNC at a further education college in Glasgow (or elsewhere) which you can then use to join a university engineering course in the second or third year. In my opinion this would be a "better" use of a year as it is then transferable and accepted by all universities, and you'd be primarily with UK students rather than on a course that is set up just for international students. I would also expect that the teaching would be more relevant and specialist, although this is just a guess. For example at Glasgow City College they have a partnership with Strathclyde University (good for engineering) which will allow you to join the second year of the degree course there if you pass the first year of their course. There's more information on the Strathclyde website. BBBB at Higher would be something like 2.0 in the Abitur, I would say, although you'll have to contact them to ask.
Original post by oxymoronic
The course is for international students, yes. I would hazard a guess that most of the students would be from Asian countries (namely China) and from countries where their school qualification hasn't allowed them to progress directly into the first year of a degree course. UK universities do not consider the high school leaving qualifications of some countries to be comparable to the A level/Scottish Higher.Given the Abitur is considered very highly by admissions departments it's likely that you will have already covered the mathematics material at school.
What score did you get in your Abitur? Have you considered applying directly to a university to start in the first year? In your situation, this might make more sense. Alternatively, you can apply to do a HND or HNC at a further education college in Glasgow (or elsewhere) which you can then use to join a university engineering course in the second or third year. In my opinion this would be a "better" use of a year as it is then transferable and accepted by all universities, and you'd be primarily with UK students rather than on a course that is set up just for international students. I would also expect that the teaching would be more relevant and specialist, although this is just a guess. For example at Glasgow City College they have a partnership with Strathclyde University (good for engineering) which will allow you to join the second year of the degree course there if you pass the first year of their course. There's more information on the Strathclyde website. BBBB at Higher would be something like 2.0 in the Abitur, I would say, although you'll have to contact them to ask.
What score did you get in your Abitur? Have you considered applying directly to a university to start in the first year? In your situation, this might make more sense. Alternatively, you can apply to do a HND or HNC at a further education college in Glasgow (or elsewhere) which you can then use to join a university engineering course in the second or third year. In my opinion this would be a "better" use of a year as it is then transferable and accepted by all universities, and you'd be primarily with UK students rather than on a course that is set up just for international students. I would also expect that the teaching would be more relevant and specialist, although this is just a guess. For example at Glasgow City College they have a partnership with Strathclyde University (good for engineering) which will allow you to join the second year of the degree course there if you pass the first year of their course. There's more information on the Strathclyde website. BBBB at Higher would be something like 2.0 in the Abitur, I would say, although you'll have to contact them to ask.
Thank you
. I already asked them and it's not possible to apply to GIC as an EU student. And I also wouldn't want to have only foreigners around me.I don't know which score I'll get in the Abitur, but it should be between 1.8 and 2.0, whereas 1.9 is most realistic. I already applied to U of Glasgow and they offered me admission (and then withdrawed it), but they wanted to see 1.5 in the Abitur + Physics, which I don't have anymore, since we do all basics until year 10.
But I received a conditional offer from City University London and I am waiting for Strathclyde (which is my top choice), University of Hertfordshire and Herriot Watt.
I'm not really a fan of these community colleges like Glasgow City, I thought about applying to one in the US, but that's not what I am looking for. Thanks anyway for this suggestion.
Original post by samman282
Thank you . I already asked them and it's not possible to apply to GIC as an EU student. And I also wouldn't want to have only foreigners around me.
I don't know which score I'll get in the Abitur, but it should be between 1.8 and 2.0, whereas 1.9 is most realistic. I already applied to U of Glasgow and they offered me admission (and then withdrawed it), but they wanted to see 1.5 in the Abitur + Physics, which I don't have anymore, since we do all basics until year 10.
But I received a conditional offer from City University London and I am waiting for Strathclyde (which is my top choice), University of Hertfordshire and Herriot Watt.
. I already asked them and it's not possible to apply to GIC as an EU student. And I also wouldn't want to have only foreigners around me.I don't know which score I'll get in the Abitur, but it should be between 1.8 and 2.0, whereas 1.9 is most realistic. I already applied to U of Glasgow and they offered me admission (and then withdrawed it), but they wanted to see 1.5 in the Abitur + Physics, which I don't have anymore, since we do all basics until year 10.
But I received a conditional offer from City University London and I am waiting for Strathclyde (which is my top choice), University of Hertfordshire and Herriot Watt.
With 1.9 I really couldn't see a reason why you'd need to do a foundation year at somewhere like you mentioned. Do your grades include maths even if not physics?
What do you mean by Glasgow offered you a place and then withdrew it? They aren't allowed to do this - can you explain more about it, please? Was the offer of a place on UCAS track?
I'm not really a fan of these community colleges like Glasgow City, I thought about applying to one in the US, but that's not what I am looking for. Thanks anyway for this suggestion.
They're not the same as community colleges in the US. They're also not like the cooperative or vocational universities in Germany. Essentially, a lot of people go to further education college to gain qualifications that they need before they go to university. A lot of people choose to study at one rather than stay at school to do A levels or Highers. Alternatively, people go to them after they have studied A levels/Highers to do a course in something like engineering to see if they like it before committing to a degree in it. They're often cheaper per year than a university and you can then use that qualification to enter into the 2nd year of a university course. It's very respected and if you didn't get into where you wanted with your Abitur grade, then I'd definitely advise you to do a HNC at a college for a year then apply for direct entry into second year for 2015.
Original post by oxymoronic
With 1.9 I really couldn't see a reason why you'd need to do a foundation year at somewhere like you mentioned. Do your grades include maths even if not physics?
This would be my Abitur grade, so yes, it would include 4 semesters of math plus the Abitur examination, but no physics since I don't have this subject anymore.
Original post by oxymoronic
What do you mean by Glasgow offered you a place and then withdrew it? They aren't allowed to do this - can you explain more about it, please? Was the offer of a place on UCAS track?
What do you mean by Glasgow offered you a place and then withdrew it? They aren't allowed to do this - can you explain more about it, please? Was the offer of a place on UCAS track?
I received a conditional offer and it was on UCAS. The condition was to get 1.5 in the Abitur including 12 in Maths and Physics. I wrote an email to them and told them that I don't have Physics anymore and on the next day I received an email that said that without physics, I'm not eligible to enter their school of engineering. Also UCAS track showed that I was declined.
Well, I've to do a deeper research about HNC degrees. Thanks
Original post by samman282
I received a conditional offer and it was on UCAS. The condition was to get 1.5 in the Abitur including 12 in Maths and Physics. I wrote an email to them and told them that I don't have Physics anymore and on the next day I received an email that said that without physics, I'm not eligible to enter their school of engineering. Also UCAS track showed that I was declined.
Well, I've to do a deeper research about HNC degrees. Thanks
Well, I've to do a deeper research about HNC degrees. Thanks
Ah okay, in that case they are allowed to take back the offer because you changed what you were offering. They can't just change offers without having a valid reason, although some universities do still try and do it.
From looking at the entry requirements of your other university options it looks like you meet them as they only want maths or physics, so good luck
Original post by oxymoronic
Ah okay, in that case they are allowed to take back the offer because you changed what you were offering. They can't just change offers without having a valid reason, although some universities do still try and do it.
Actually, I didn't change what I was offering, I didn't put Physics as a module onto UCAS, so they should have known, but it seems like they didn't really review my application.
Yes, I hope that I won't see Physics as a condition anymore, thank you !
Original post by oxymoronic
Ah okay, in that case they are allowed to take back the offer because you changed what you were offering. They can't just change offers without having a valid reason, although some universities do still try and do it.
From looking at the entry requirements of your other university options it looks like you meet them as they only want maths or physics, so good luck
From looking at the entry requirements of your other university options it looks like you meet them as they only want maths or physics, so good luck
Hi,
today I received an offer from the University of Hertfordshire and they put Physics as a requirement too. But on their website they write this:
"
GCE A Levels must include both Mathematics and Physics or Technology or engineering-based subjects.
NB General Studies / Critical Thinking will not be accepted as part of the total UCAS points achieved.
We also accept:
•
Engineering BTEC Extended National Diploma at DMM to include Distinction in the Further Maths unit.
•
Engineering Advanced Diploma to include GCE A level Maths as the Additional and Specialist Learning (ASL) component.
•
Access to Engineering Diploma with 45 Level 3 credits at Distinction in Maths and Science or Principles units; and all other Level 3 credits must be at Merit.
GCSEs must include Mathematics, English Language and Science at C or above."
http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/aerospace-engineering-with-space-technology2
So from what I understood, I don't need necessarily Physics, but a science subject. Of course I didn't put Physics as a module on UCAS, so they should've known. Do you have any idea what I can do or what I should tell them? I really want this offer. I tried to call them, but nobody answered
.Original post by samman282
Hi,
today I received an offer from the University of Hertfordshire and they put Physics as a requirement too. But on their website they write this:
"
GCE A Levels must include both Mathematics and Physics or Technology or engineering-based subjects.
NB General Studies / Critical Thinking will not be accepted as part of the total UCAS points achieved.
We also accept:
GCSEs must include Mathematics, English Language and Science at C or above."
http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/aerospace-engineering-with-space-technology2
So from what I understood, I don't need necessarily Physics, but a science subject. Of course I didn't put Physics as a module on UCAS, so they should've known. Do you have any idea what I can do or what I should tell them? I really want this offer. I tried to call them, but nobody answered.
today I received an offer from the University of Hertfordshire and they put Physics as a requirement too. But on their website they write this:
"
GCE A Levels must include both Mathematics and Physics or Technology or engineering-based subjects.
NB General Studies / Critical Thinking will not be accepted as part of the total UCAS points achieved.
We also accept:
•
Engineering BTEC Extended National Diploma at DMM to include Distinction in the Further Maths unit.
•
Engineering Advanced Diploma to include GCE A level Maths as the Additional and Specialist Learning (ASL) component.
•
Access to Engineering Diploma with 45 Level 3 credits at Distinction in Maths and Science or Principles units; and all other Level 3 credits must be at Merit.
GCSEs must include Mathematics, English Language and Science at C or above."
http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/aerospace-engineering-with-space-technology2
So from what I understood, I don't need necessarily Physics, but a science subject. Of course I didn't put Physics as a module on UCAS, so they should've known. Do you have any idea what I can do or what I should tell them? I really want this offer. I tried to call them, but nobody answered
.Hey,
Sorry I am only replying to you now, I don't come on TSR every day these days!
My understanding of what they write on their website is that they want:
A level Maths
AND
Physics
OR
Technology
OR
Engineering
However, these are just typical offers and requirements. A university is free to make whatever offer it wishes, however, if you didn't say you did physics then I'm not sure why they are asking you for it. It's likely that the person putting the offer onto UCAS is using a copy/paste set up whereby there is room for error as most people would be doing maths and physics. Have you had chance to speak to Hertfordshire yet? As I say, it might just be that they read your subjects wrong and sent the wrong offer. It does happen!
Hi!
Anyway, thanks.
Yes, I phoned them and they told me I should write an email and list all of my subjects. I got a reply yesterday, they said that I can't get into this program, but the program leader would like to change my course to Bsc Aerospace Technology with Management; I could change to the Beng Program after the first year, if I have the grades. But I think this course is even better, than my previously chosen course.
As for Strathclyde and Herriot Watt, both seem to have similiar entry requirements.
Should I phone them and ask them to change my course, because I don't want this to happen again, or worse, to be declined (especially for Strathclyde, which is my top choice now)?
Anyway, thanks
.Yes, I phoned them and they told me I should write an email and list all of my subjects. I got a reply yesterday, they said that I can't get into this program, but the program leader would like to change my course to Bsc Aerospace Technology with Management; I could change to the Beng Program after the first year, if I have the grades. But I think this course is even better, than my previously chosen course.
As for Strathclyde and Herriot Watt, both seem to have similiar entry requirements.
Should I phone them and ask them to change my course, because I don't want this to happen again, or worse, to be declined (especially for Strathclyde, which is my top choice now)?
Original post by oxymoronic
Hey,
Sorry I am only replying to you now, I don't come on TSR every day these days!
My understanding of what they write on their website is that they want:
A level Maths
AND
Physics
OR
Technology
OR
Engineering
However, these are just typical offers and requirements. A university is free to make whatever offer it wishes, however, if you didn't say you did physics then I'm not sure why they are asking you for it. It's likely that the person putting the offer onto UCAS is using a copy/paste set up whereby there is room for error as most people would be doing maths and physics. Have you had chance to speak to Hertfordshire yet? As I say, it might just be that they read your subjects wrong and sent the wrong offer. It does happen!
Sorry I am only replying to you now, I don't come on TSR every day these days!
My understanding of what they write on their website is that they want:
A level Maths
AND
Physics
OR
Technology
OR
Engineering
However, these are just typical offers and requirements. A university is free to make whatever offer it wishes, however, if you didn't say you did physics then I'm not sure why they are asking you for it. It's likely that the person putting the offer onto UCAS is using a copy/paste set up whereby there is room for error as most people would be doing maths and physics. Have you had chance to speak to Hertfordshire yet? As I say, it might just be that they read your subjects wrong and sent the wrong offer. It does happen!
Original post by samman282
Hi!
Anyway, thanks.
Yes, I phoned them and they told me I should write an email and list all of my subjects. I got a reply yesterday, they said that I can't get into this program, but the program leader would like to change my course to Bsc Aerospace Technology with Management; I could change to the Beng Program after the first year, if I have the grades. But I think this course is even better, than my previously chosen course.
As for Strathclyde and Herriot Watt, both seem to have similiar entry requirements.
Should I phone them and ask them to change my course, because I don't want this to happen again, or worse, to be declined (especially for Strathclyde, which is my top choice now)?
Anyway, thanks
.Yes, I phoned them and they told me I should write an email and list all of my subjects. I got a reply yesterday, they said that I can't get into this program, but the program leader would like to change my course to Bsc Aerospace Technology with Management; I could change to the Beng Program after the first year, if I have the grades. But I think this course is even better, than my previously chosen course.
As for Strathclyde and Herriot Watt, both seem to have similiar entry requirements.
Should I phone them and ask them to change my course, because I don't want this to happen again, or worse, to be declined (especially for Strathclyde, which is my top choice now)?
At least that sounds positive with regards to Hertfordshire. I would definitely tell them that they should change the info on their website as I read it that you didn't have to have physics, you just had to have physics OR technology OR engineering related subject.... and I've been doing university admissions for over 5 years now!
What course is it that you've applied for at Strathclyde? It might be worth speaking them to ask about whether you are eligible for the course that you've applied for and if not are there any that you are eligible for - I wouldn't ask to change course without finding out if you're actually okay for the course you do want to do. As I've said before in Scotland there is also the HND/HNC option which (if you picked the right one at the right college) would let you transfer into year 2 of the courses that you want to do in Scotland anyway.
Original post by oxymoronic
At least that sounds positive with regards to Hertfordshire. I would definitely tell them that they should change the info on their website as I read it that you didn't have to have physics, you just had to have physics OR technology OR engineering related subject.... and I've been doing university admissions for over 5 years now!
Okay. But I also don't have an engineering related subject (except for Chemistry), so maybe they didn't really look at my subjects.
Original post by oxymoronic
What course is it that you've applied for at Strathclyde? It might be worth speaking them to ask about whether you are eligible for the course that you've applied for and if not are there any that you are eligible for - I wouldn't ask to change course without finding out if you're actually okay for the course you do want to do. As I've said before in Scotland there is also the HND/HNC option which (if you picked the right one at the right college) would let you transfer into year 2 of the courses that you want to do in Scotland anyway.
What course is it that you've applied for at Strathclyde? It might be worth speaking them to ask about whether you are eligible for the course that you've applied for and if not are there any that you are eligible for - I wouldn't ask to change course without finding out if you're actually okay for the course you do want to do. As I've said before in Scotland there is also the HND/HNC option which (if you picked the right one at the right college) would let you transfer into year 2 of the courses that you want to do in Scotland anyway.
It's Aero-Mechanical Engineering. Their entry requirements include: Maths and Physics Higher (A) or A-Level.
I don't know if I should remember them about that, but I if I'm not eligible for that course, I might want change to another not engineering related course, where I don't need Physics.
https://www.strath.ac.uk/media/publications/admissions/entryrequirements/engineering/Mechanical_Engineering.pdf
Original post by oxymoronic
What course is it that you've applied for at Strathclyde? It might be worth speaking them to ask about whether you are eligible for the course that you've applied for and if not are there any that you are eligible for - I wouldn't ask to change course without finding out if you're actually okay for the course you do want to do. As I've said before in Scotland there is also the HND/HNC option which (if you picked the right one at the right college) would let you transfer into year 2 of the courses that you want to do in Scotland anyway.
What course is it that you've applied for at Strathclyde? It might be worth speaking them to ask about whether you are eligible for the course that you've applied for and if not are there any that you are eligible for - I wouldn't ask to change course without finding out if you're actually okay for the course you do want to do. As I've said before in Scotland there is also the HND/HNC option which (if you picked the right one at the right college) would let you transfer into year 2 of the courses that you want to do in Scotland anyway.
Hi again
. It would be nice if you could answer my question. I did not ask Strathclyde whether I'm eligible for their course or not until now, because I had my Abitur examinations. Today I'm gonna write an email and ask them if I'm eligible for the course. I think I'm also going to ask if they could change my course, if I'm not eligible.But as for the HNC/HND option, is there a college where I can transfer to St. Andrews after Year 1?
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