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Yes, but if they were good enough, they would have gone to the grammar?

I did.

so grammars are for the accademically elite it seems then...

Yes, but if they were good enough, they would have gone to the grammar?

Didn't you laugh when you read that comment, and with a red angry face as well just to emphasize her hatred towards you?

I go to a lower than bog standard comp and there's one guy there who aspires to be an astrophysicist (sp) for NASA, he didn't get into the grammar yet he is definately above average intelligence achieving E.P's in both Science and Maths in year 9, how many kids in grammars get that?

of course, it is amusing how pathetic some people can be to turn a simple comment on my part into their only viscious contribution to this thread. youd think some people were hung up on soliciting my every word..

I completely disagree.

In my view, grammars are for relatively bright children whose parents push them to go to a grammar, in general.

In deianra's case, I cannot judge - Because she is very bright anyway and she said she wanted to go to a grammar, which is fair enough.

But I disagree with the "academically elite". Elite in what?

Please elaborate.

Which makes a mockery out of grammar schools when their motos are "we select the best". They clearly don't.

How can you select the best at the age of 10 years old?!

It's almost a joke, seriously.

Sigh.

Kendrick was in Reading. I lived in Cardiff. I found out about Kendrick via a friend and telephoned the Admissions Officer. This was in February/March 1998. However, I was severely disappointed to find out that the Admissions tests had been taken in November. After asking my primary school headteacher to ring Kendrick's Head several times telling them of my situation, how Cardiff didn't have any grammar schools, my academical status...Kendrick agreed to let me take the test with the condition that if I did very well, they'd give me a place on the waiting list. I did very very well and they gave me a place.

So they didn't really take me to the exam place, nor did they pay for my bus fare (I got a free bus pass from the council because of low income and living a long way from school). Did my parents support me? Yes, they did, but I did most of the grovelling to the Headteachers.

Are you saying that if you wanted to go to the grammar, your parents would have refused?

Vienna, why has your post count dropped by around 300?

i have no idea. im assuming with the change around, theyve axed threads. of course the completely pointless Harry Potter thread is still around no doubt, maintaining some peoples only form of existence here

Very much so.

Admittidly, my brain developed at about 12 (which was all of year eight for me) and I became one of the brightest then.

They should definitely select later than 11 (although 10 years of age for the younger ones). They don't turn rebel like at this age, it is impossible to detect how good a student will proress at this age and how hard they will work for the next five years.

Sigh.

Kendrick was in Reading. I lived in Cardiff. I found out about Kendrick via a friend and telephoned the Admissions Officer. This was in February/March 1998. However, I was severely disappointed to find out that the Admissions tests had been taken in November. After asking my primary school headteacher to ring Kendrick's Head several times telling them of my situation, how Cardiff didn't have any grammar schools, my academical status...Kendrick agreed to let me take the test with the condition that if I did very well, they'd give me a place on the waiting list. I did very very well and they gave me a place.

So they didn't really take me to the exam place, nor did they pay for my bus fare (I got a free bus pass from the council because of low income and living a long way from school). Did my parents support me? Yes, they did, but I did most of the grovelling to the Headteachers.

Are you saying that if you wanted to go to the grammar, your parents would have refused?

Heh. Join a Public School. We all change at 13.

The system works well enough though, if you consider the results you get. Only the minority are missed but these do sometimes join later. My best friend joined in Year 8, another I know in Year 10 and they all got brilliant results.

How can we assess a 'right' age? Many do not develop until 16/17, when they do their AS/A2s...

As far as I know, all grammars allow entry at all ages, depending on how many places they have available. You just have to ring up and enquire.

Public schools are not just for males. It depends on which school you go to.