PGCE with an Oxford 2.2?

Are you looking to teach English in a secondary school or do a Primary PGCE? I'm under the impression that whilst 2:1s are desirable, you can still get on to a course with a 2:2 although it will be a lot tougher as you'll be competing with people who have first class degrees or 2:1s.

Whether or not your 2:2 is from Oxford is neither here nor there, it's still a 2:2. One might question why you're only getting a 2:2 when I assume you must have had exceptional grades at A-Level to get into Oxford?

It's a sad day when someone thinks a 2:2 from Oxford isn't good enough.

There are unis that accept 2:2 for pgce. Look at course entry requirements. Keep your application strong by spending some time in schools.

Why is it a sad day? Whether or not it's from Oxford, a 2:2 is still a 2:2 and not a particularly good classification of degree. If Gove has his way, all teachers will need at least a 2:1 to teach in future so the fact that you've been to Oxford is irrelevant if you're not up to that standard.

If Gove had his way, all out kids would be in school 7-7, teachers would all be on NMW but produce brilliant work and love their jobs, and every kid would love school.

A Degree is a degree, and if anyone every says that your 2:2 is a failure, tell them to "go fornicate with oneself"

Why is it a sad day? Whether or not it's from Oxford, a 2:2 is still a 2:2 and not a particularly good classification of degree. If Gove has his way, all teachers will need at least a 2:1 to teach in future so the fact that you've been to Oxford is irrelevant if you're not up to that standard.

I don't care which University's it from! It just makes me sad that people talk about anything less than a 2:1 as if it's some massive failure. I dunno, like I feel it overlooks the fact that someone completed a degree and committed to it and worked hard in the process of that (regardless of what the piece of paper said at the end).... That's not me attacking you because the fact is that it's all about having a competitive edge so I can see where you're coming from because it's a competitive world out there but on the other hand it just makes me sad that people feel down about getting less than a 2:1 when I think they should feel proud.

I got a 2:2 in my degree but I hope I don't end up feeling regretful or worried about it. I did an MA after that and am hopefully going to undertake an MSc (or some of it!) in September. I am hoping to get some more experience observing in a school and I have been working in a different industry since finishing Uni in 2010. My point is that I would hope that anywhere that offers teaching training and/or teaching jobs would look at the whole person rather than just their grade in their degree in terms of their other experience and how well they come across as a person and their reasons for wanting to go into teaching. I think if we start to say "2:1 or go home" then it will eliminate a lot of people with excellent potential from being teachers.

If this Gove bloke actually does set it up to be a case of 2:1 or go home then that'll be me out of the running but so far I am hopefully because currently a lot of PGCEs appear to have open minded entry requirements at the moment (I want to do a food tech PGCE so fingers crossed based on what I've read on the University entry requirements for their courses!).

I don't care which University's it from! It just makes me sad that people talk about anything less than a 2:1 as if it's some massive failure. I dunno, like I feel it overlooks the fact that someone completed a degree and committed to it and worked hard in the process of that (regardless of what the piece of paper said at the end).... That's not me attacking you because the fact is that it's all about having a competitive edge so I can see where you're coming from because it's a competitive world out there but on the other hand it just makes me sad that people feel down about getting less than a 2:1 when I think they should feel proud.

I got a 2:2 in my degree but I hope I don't end up feeling regretful or worried about it. I did an MA after that and am hopefully going to undertake an MSc (or some of it!) in September. I am hoping to get some more experience observing in a school and I have been working in a different industry since finishing Uni in 2010. My point is that I would hope that anywhere that offers teaching training and/or teaching jobs would look at the whole person rather than just their grade in their degree in terms of their other experience and how well they come across as a person and their reasons for wanting to go into teaching. I think if we start to say "2:1 or go home" then it will eliminate a lot of people with excellent potential from being teachers.

If this Gove bloke actually does set it up to be a case of 2:1 or go home then that'll be me out of the running but so far I am hopefully because currently a lot of PGCEs appear to have open minded entry requirements at the moment (I want to do a food tech PGCE so fingers crossed based on what I've read on the University entry requirements for their courses!).

I'm not saying that people with a 2:2 shouldn't be considered for a teacher training course, merely that a 2:2 from Oxford is no better (or worse) than a 2:2 from anywhere else. You'll still have to compete with people with better academic qualifications for your place.

Thanks for your replies everyone. Just to emphasize I'm not trying to say that I'm superior because I'm at Oxford!

I'm hoping to do secondary english, ideally in London although I know that that's one of the most competitive areas.

Thanks again everyone!

I got a place to study my PGCE at the UEA this September with a 3rd (which I worked incredibly hard for).

To the OP: if you want it, then go for it! Have faith in yourself and remember why you want to teach and what is driving you to do it.

xx

Yeah but a 2.2 from Oxford is probably worth a very high 2.1 or 1st from London Metropolitan University. I disagree that universities mark similarly.