[EierVonSatan]

I heart maths <3

[dknt]

(Original post by boromir9111)
I dislike maths, as well

[boromir9111]

(Original post by dknt)

[cpchem]

As a physical organic chemist (yes, we do exist!), I should point out that organic chemistry can well involve maths.

[illusionz]

(Original post by EierVonSatan)
I heart maths <3

After spending much of the day struggling with huckel/perturbation theory I must conclude you are mad

(Original post by cpchem)
As a physical organic chemist (yes, we do exist!), I should point out that organic chemistry can well involve maths.

What sort of stuff does that involve? Is it things such as solvent effects and energies of transition states and the like?

[EierVonSatan]

(Original post by illusionz)
After spending much of the day struggling with huckel/perturbation theory I must conclude you are mad

It helps

[illusionz]

(Original post by EierVonSatan)
It helps

Ended up deciding to do some inorganic (boranes/clusters etc) so as not to end up killing myself! Actually find it quite interesting although everyone else seems to despise it!

[cpchem]

(Original post by illusionz)
What sort of stuff does that involve? Is it things such as solvent effects and energies of transition states and the like?

Lots of kinetics, some pretty horrendous NMR techniques, that sort of thing. We study the mechanisms of organic/organometallic reactions, as well as developing new reactions.

[Loz17]

I don't doubt maths isn't involved in organics. Maths is probably involved in something like art these days

[boromir9111]

(Original post by Loz17)
I don't doubt maths isn't involved in organics. Maths is probably involved in something like art these days

I like to shuffle as well, especially when i have this on

[Loz17]

(Original post by boromir9111)
I like to shuffle as well, especially when i have this on

Absolutely no-one has discovered that it's actually a link and it's been there ages

On a plus note of today, I've found out that I know more thermodynamic and spectroscopy theory than I thought

[Valh]

How important is it for further/postgrad study to have relevant work experience? I'm coming to the end of my first year at university and I don't have any kind of chemistry related job for the summer break. Should this worry me?

I am asking because a few friends (albeit non-chemists) have found jobs and industrial placements for the holiday... and I wouldn't even know where to begin about these things.

[EierVonSatan]

(Original post by Valh)
How important is it for further study to have relevant work experience? I'm coming to the end of my first year and I don't have any kind of chemistry related job for the summer break. Should this worry me?

For further study? Not at all.

If you're considering a research degree then try to get a summer placement with a lecturer in your department for the end of your third year. This is by no means essential, however.

[Valh]

(Original post by EierVonSatan)
For further study? Not at all.

If you're considering a research degree then try to get a summer placement with a lecturer in your department for the end of your third year. This is by no means essential, however.

Thank you, that's a relief!

[cpchem]

(Original post by EierVonSatan)
For further study? Not at all.

If you're considering a research degree then try to get a summer placement with a lecturer in your department for the end of your third year. This is by no means essential, however.

I think I saw your boss the other day at Bristol Synthesis...

[EierVonSatan]

(Original post by cpchem)
I think I saw your boss the other day at Bristol Synthesis...

Ha, I forgotten all about Bristol! Haven't been in two years now..

[cpchem]

It wasn't bad this year, actually. We went to all of the talks and didn't skive off to the pub at all... which actually felt a little bit wrong.

Two years ago looks like a bad line-up (except for Scott Denmark); having heard all of those speak, bar Peter Leadlay, I think that was one to miss... Fukuyama, Ghadiri and Yamamoto did nothing for me.

Still trying to decide if I want to go to BOSS this summer.

[Ari Ben Canaan]

(Original post by boromir9111)
I dislike maths, as well

Why don't you less than 3 math ?

[boromir9111]

(Original post by Ari Ben Canaan)
Why don't you less than 3 math ?

you actually less than 3 math? my oh my, you genius.........i must come to you now whenever i need help on titration calculations

You're up early for a Friday, how come?

[Ari Ben Canaan]

I have a question for all of you.... Its about a little experiment I'm carrying out in my family kitchen.

My mother owns some silver plated drinking glasses. Over the years they've turned dark black. Initially I thought this was due to the formation of oxides (as with rusting) but apparently its due to the formation of Silver Sulphides.

Anyways, to remove the tarnish I immersed aluminium foil in a solution of NaCl and Baking soda. I then placed the glass on top of the foil and voila 90% of the tarnish disappeared in seconds.

My question, is how can I improve this experiment to increase the amount of tarnish removed ?