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C4 Integration using standard patterns

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I need help on part b please.

THANKS:smile:
Reply 1
Use integration by substitution.

cosec^2(2x)cot(2x) is the same as cos(2x)/sin^3(2x).

Let u = sin(2x), then du/dx = 2cos(2x) -> du = 2cos(2x) dx -> 1/2 du = cos(2x) dx.

Then you have to integrate 1/2[u^(-3)] du, which is -u^(-2) / 4, which is -1/4u^2 and in terms of x that's -1/4sin^2(2x).

Which is equivalent to -cosec^2(2x)/4 + C.
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Reply 2
Original post by CTArsenal
Use integration by substitution.

cosec^2(2x)cot(2x) is the same as cos(2x)/sin^3(2x).

Let u = sin(2x), then du/dx = cos(2x).

Then you have to integrate [u^(-3)] du, which is -u^(-2) / 2, which is -1/2u^2 and in terms of x that's -1/2sin^2(2x).

Which is equivalent to -cosec^2(2x)/2.


Yeah, but can I know why I went wrong above?
Reply 3
Original post by krisshP
Yeah, but can I know why I went wrong above?


You've got the answer right :smile:

(1+cot^2(2x))/4 is the same as (cosec^2x)/4 using the trig identity of 1+cot^2(2x) = cosec^2(2x); but since the constant can take any value; it's absorbed into the answer. That's why we have different solutions to the actual solution.
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Reply 4
Original post by CTArsenal
You've got the answer right :smile:


But then why is the solution different? They got cot^2(2x) instead of cosec^2(2x):confused:

Edit: it's part b.
Reply 5
Original post by krisshP
But then why is the solution different? They got cot^2(2x) instead of cosec^2(2x):confused:

Edit: it's part b.


See edit above :smile:

The book generally does have some mistakes so don't always believe that they're perfect haha; but both answers are correct in this case.
Reply 6
Original post by CTArsenal
See edit above :smile:

The book generally does have some mistakes so don't always believe that they're perfect haha; but both answers are correct in this case.


OH YEAH!!!! 1+cot^2(2x) =cosec^2(2x) MAKE SENSE NOW!!!!!!!!:biggrin:

THANKS A LOT!:smile:
Reply 7
Original post by CTArsenal
Use integration by substitution.

cosec^2(2x)cot(2x) is the same as cos(2x)/sin^3(2x).

Let u = sin(2x), then du/dx = 2cos(2x) -> du = 2cos(2x) dx -> 1/2 du = cos(2x) dx.

Then you have to integrate 1/2[u^(-3)] du, which is -u^(-2) / 4, which is -1/4u^2 and in terms of x that's -1/4sin^2(2x).

Which is equivalent to -cosec^2(2x)/4 + C.


:eek: WOW! It worked as expected! How nice?

Did you decide what u was equal to after realising that cosec^2(2x)cot(2x) is equal to cos(2x)/sin^3(2x)?

Thanks
Reply 8
Original post by krisshP
:eek: WOW! It worked as expected! How nice?

Did you decide what u was equal to after realising that cosec^2(2x)cot(2x) is equal to cos(2x)/sin^3(2x)?

Thanks


I somewhat have a knack for seeing substitutions for integration (if they're possible) haha. I would just say that if you're stuck with a question like that in the exam then just write it out a different way and see if that makes the question any easier :smile:
Reply 9
Original post by CTArsenal
I somewhat have a knack for seeing substitutions for integration (if they're possible) haha. I would just say that if you're stuck with a question like that in the exam then just write it out a different way and see if that makes the question any easier :smile:


I'm guessing you let u=sin(2x) as then inside the integral you'd then have u raised to integer powers which are easier to deal with. Also, u=sin(2x) differentiates to 2cos(2x) which ends up cancelling quite nicely.

Thanks for that tip.
Reply 10
Original post by CTArsenal
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For the last part there (part e) what would you let u be equal to and why?

Thanks

Edit: I let u=cosx and I ended up with -2S (x^2)/(u^3) du.
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Reply 11
Original post by krisshP
Edit: I let u=cosx and I ended up with -2S (x^2)/(u^3) du.


You wouldn't be able to integrate that by substitution because of the x^2, I'd do integration by parts, and let 2x^2 = u, and dv/dx = sec^2(x)tan(x).

Integrate sec^2(x)tan(x) using substitution separately, as it's the same as sin(x)/cos^3(x). Then let a variable equal cos x and then integrate. When you get that solution then it's just 2x^2 x (your solution) - the integral of 4x x (your solution), and repeat the process.
Reply 12
Original post by krisshP
Just tried it and didn't go well at all. I did it, but at the bold part things just get so annoying and confused.


You do need 2 iterations of IBP to make the last example work.

This is a skill that you will need to get used to, so I would suggest starting with something a bit simpler like the integral of (x^2)e^x or (x^2)sin x and making sure you can integrate those by parts first (check your answer by differentiating it!!).

Once you're happy with the process then you can try out a more complicated problem like your last example :smile:
Reply 13
Original post by davros
You do need 2 iterations of IBP to make the last example work.

This is a skill that you will need to get used to, so I would suggest starting with something a bit simpler like the integral of (x^2)e^x or (x^2)sin x and making sure you can integrate those by parts first (check your answer by differentiating it!!).

Once you're happy with the process then you can try out a more complicated problem like your last example :smile:


OK, thanks
Reply 14
Original post by davros
You do need 2 iterations of IBP to make the last example work.

This is a skill that you will need to get used to, so I would suggest starting with something a bit simpler like the integral of (x^2)e^x or (x^2)sin x and making sure you can integrate those by parts first (check your answer by differentiating it!!).

Once you're happy with the process then you can try out a more complicated problem like your last example :smile:


Yay done it. It actually did help to go back to simpler ones and then come back to this beast as it made me select u in by parts more appropriately which made it significantly easier!:smile:

THANKS

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