is sex drive socially constructed?

the difference is i can back my statements (studies, historical data, surveys, empirical evidence, experiments, science etc) while 99% of the time feminists/social engineers only have their personal opinions and insults by their side. there are maybe 1-2 feminists on this forum you can reason with and i'm probably being generous. which post are you referring to, what's the number? or pls quote.

Oh just in time for the white knight. Go on bro, maybe you'll get to bang this one! Maybe this one will go for it! Probably not though :-)

I think it's both - there will be innate factors reliant on the different hormonal profiles of men and women. But it is also obvious that there are many social factors which influence the way that men and women express and act upon their sexuality. It's also important to remember that even reasonable generalisations do not apply to every individual.

I don't think modern feminists (speaking as one) have an issue with the notion of men and women potentially being different, even very different in some regards. But this isn't a reason to hold people to different moral standards (eg: a woman's promiscuity is wrong, whereas a man's is right), and it isn't a reason to apply generalisations (which often become exaggerated to the extent they are not even true on the whole) to an individual when they feel they don't fit (eg: you are a woman therefore you don't really like sex, you just use it as a tool, or you are a man therefore you have no emotional depth - two reasonably pervasive attitudes both of which are harmful and offensive to the respective gender/sex). Also oversimplified attitudes about the differences between the sexes is generally a bad thing in terms of actual learning about what makes men and women tick differently (eg: do women have less of a sex drive, or is their sex drive just more subtle, or driven in a different direction, or dependant upon different factors?)

I think your view that those with perhaps only a slightly different point of view will be unreasonable and impossible to engage with "99%" of the time is really preventing you from learning anything from these discussions, and is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Naturally, projecting your derision for what you perceive as the "other side" (as you have) in this debate is going to bring out the worst, eg, most confrontational and defensive responses.

So you have experience of being a man and a woman? Wow.

No? You don't?

Then why are you speaking for women?


And do not use evolutionary theory in the most rudimentary way possible. People on here constantly put 'it's evolutionary theory!' onto the end of their opinion like their backing it up with evidence.

let me give you a few examples of the most vocal feminists on this forum: one proudly stated how she absolutely hates children, another how she'd try to rob her husband alive during a divorce even if he hadn't done anything wrong because she's a vindictive bitch and doesn't give a **** about fairness... and this is just the stuff i remember. i mean just the other day, i was talking to another one: i asked what's her opinion as a woman on something , so she tells me she's not a woman. so i go check her history since i was pretty sure she was and i find a thread started by her proving she was lying. so i post it, get no reply then some mod deletes my post. then the whole thread gets nuked even though it was a week old or so.

so not only feminists are impossible to reason with, but it seems like TSR is very protective of them. this is what i have to deal with. so please don't say i am on the same level.

How original.

How original.

On average possibly, but it still does vary on an individual basis, which is something people seem to ignore.

That's the case with all group differences. The moment somebody points out an obvious group difference, somebody will misunderstand what is being claimed and say "hey, that doesn't apply to all individuals!". An extreme case would be to say that the claim that Dalmatians are spotty is false, since some Dalmatians must surely be albino.

Oh yeah, I agree. I just don't think people using extremes tend to acknowledge the exceptions.

that's the thing, there's nothing extreme about it. men are stronger, taller and faster than women. are those extreme statements? how are they extreme if the occur 90%+ of times?

I concur. The whole 'whiteknighting' thing is bizarre.

Yeah. I find it interesting that they don't seem to apply this logic to straight who call out homophobes (e.g. "you're secretely gay yourself and after sex with him/her") or white people who call out racists ("you just want to have sex with some black girl").