Do you think labour did a good job??
This is directed at labour supporters. Do you honestly think labour did a good job during the many years they were last in power??
I want to understand why you think they did as I just can't see it. I feel like I am missing something but would love to be enlightened as I'm sure there was pros and cons.
Forget the labour and conservative rivalry, this is not a debate or why you should vote who ever in the next general election
I want to understand why you think they did as I just can't see it. I feel like I am missing something but would love to be enlightened as I'm sure there was pros and cons.
Forget the labour and conservative rivalry, this is not a debate or why you should vote who ever in the next general election
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generally I think they did alright
Positives
- I think public service quality went up a lot (we don't hear about mega hour queues and bed shortages like the mid 90s)
- Pensioners are the poorer end are much more comfortable (not freezing to death at home)
- In general a more affluent society (compare the number of coffee shops and media lovies)
- Tax rates didn't rise too much
Edit - Successfully stopped the UK banking system (and consequently the country) going to the wall
Negatives
- Pretty awful foriegn policy decisions after 9/11
- Too lasie-faire about widening wealth gap
- Didn't reform the existing benefit system early enough (they left that to the third term)
- Were no better than anyone else at predicting the effect the US sub-prime would have on international money markets
Overall people are better off, so I think they were 'good'. Then again, it was from a low base.
Positives
- I think public service quality went up a lot (we don't hear about mega hour queues and bed shortages like the mid 90s)
- Pensioners are the poorer end are much more comfortable (not freezing to death at home)
- In general a more affluent society (compare the number of coffee shops and media lovies)
- Tax rates didn't rise too much
Edit - Successfully stopped the UK banking system (and consequently the country) going to the wall
Negatives
- Pretty awful foriegn policy decisions after 9/11
- Too lasie-faire about widening wealth gap
- Didn't reform the existing benefit system early enough (they left that to the third term)
- Were no better than anyone else at predicting the effect the US sub-prime would have on international money markets
Overall people are better off, so I think they were 'good'. Then again, it was from a low base.
(edited 10 years ago)
No. They took some awful decisions, and never thought anything through.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4777013.stm
The labour party got people killed.
nuff said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4777013.stm
The labour party got people killed.
nuff said.
(edited 10 years ago)
They got away with murder. Absolutely filthy rats. Illegal organisation who pander to voters who have no idea about economics and offer false promises that are unsustainable, creating huge holes in the economy. Trendy lefty idiots.
Neo-Bolshevik Zionist Marxist Conspirators who poisoned our water supply and ritually sacrificed 10,000 babies.
David Cameron's an absolute lad, by the way.
David Cameron's an absolute lad, by the way.
Positives
-Led the country through possibly the best economic era of the 20th and early 21st century (well suppose it still is early :P)
Negatives
- Spent more money then they had coming in
- Reformed a civil sector that was great when money was coming in, but impossible to downsize/dismantle, due to public opinion, if things went south
- Lied about the amount of debt we were in
Basically
1997-2001 did a good job
2001-2005 did okay
2005-2010 messed up big time
-Led the country through possibly the best economic era of the 20th and early 21st century (well suppose it still is early :P)
Negatives
- Spent more money then they had coming in
- Reformed a civil sector that was great when money was coming in, but impossible to downsize/dismantle, due to public opinion, if things went south
- Lied about the amount of debt we were in
Basically
1997-2001 did a good job
2001-2005 did okay
2005-2010 messed up big time
Original post by MASTER265
This is directed at labour supporters. Do you honestly think labour did a good job during the many years they were last in power??
I want to understand why you think they did as I just can't see it. I feel like I am missing something but would love to be enlightened as I'm sure there was pros and cons.
Forget the labour and conservative rivalry, this is not a debate or why you should vote who ever in the next general election
I want to understand why you think they did as I just can't see it. I feel like I am missing something but would love to be enlightened as I'm sure there was pros and cons.
Forget the labour and conservative rivalry, this is not a debate or why you should vote who ever in the next general election
I'm on the right so don't support Labour but i do feel some people blind themselves to them being able to do a single thing right. The things that impressed me..
- Gave BOE independence
- Brought in a minimum wage
- Maintained a fiscal surplus until 2001
- Improved the education and NHS systems
- Intervened in Kosovo and Sierra Lionne
- Raised the tax threshold
- Lowered crime
They'd have got my vote in 01, no other election though.
Well since the UK is nothing like Greece right now, I'd say they did a good job...
Original post by DanB1991
1997-2001 did a good job
2001-2005 did okay
2005-2010 messed up big time
2001-2005 did okay
2005-2010 messed up big time
Original post by Rakas21
- Brought in a minimum wage
.
- Brought in a minimum wage
.
Yes and no...
Good in the regard you have to be paid a certain amount.
Bad in it's implementation as it actually encourages age discrimination against young people.
Labour did an excellent job. I cannot wait to see them back, in order to free up the welfare state again.
Re-invest in the NHS
Socialism for all my friends
VOTE LABOUR!!
Re-invest in the NHS
Socialism for all my friends
VOTE LABOUR!!
Original post by Rakas21
I'm on the right so don't support Labour but i do feel some people blind themselves to them being able to do a single thing right. The things that impressed me..
- Gave BOE independence
- Brought in a minimum wage
- Maintained a fiscal surplus until 2001
- Improved the education and NHS systems
- Intervened in Kosovo and Sierra Lionne
- Raised the tax threshold
- Lowered crime
They'd have got my vote in 01, no other election though.
- Gave BOE independence
- Brought in a minimum wage
- Maintained a fiscal surplus until 2001
- Improved the education and NHS systems
- Intervened in Kosovo and Sierra Lionne
- Raised the tax threshold
- Lowered crime
They'd have got my vote in 01, no other election though.
Invaded Iraq on false pretences then lied about it
Occupied Afghanistan
Accepted One Million pound bribe from Bernie Ecclestone
Abandoned responsiblity for governance of financial sector
Engaged in creative accounting like PFI to hide expenditure
Ordered two huge Aircraft Carriers from Gordon Browns constituency - one of which is scheduled for mothballing already - and for neither of which are suitable aircraft in sight
Brought huge number of employed people into welfare, government control and socialism with Tax Credits
Presided over moral meltdown and continuing rise of single parenthood, crime, gambling and drinking.
Misused the honours system
Scrapped HMS Britannia
Took expenses abuse to new levels
Enacted Human Rights Act
Introduced "Court of Protection"
Handed power to unelected idiot incapable of winning election
Dissipated the public purse
Slashed the armed forces
Gave GPs ludicrous contract
Engaged in "open door" immigration policy for political purposes
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ?
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Original post by Bill_Gates
Labour did an excellent job. I cannot wait to see them back, in order to free up the welfare state again.
Re-invest in the NHS
Socialism for all my friends
VOTE LABOUR!!
Re-invest in the NHS
Socialism for all my friends
VOTE LABOUR!!
Capitalism.... putting a man in chains of consumerism and saying he is free.
Socialism.... taking all a man owns away from him and saying he is free.
Tbh I think they're both as bad as each other.
Original post by Old_Simon
Brought huge number of employed people into welfare, government control and socialism with Tax Credits
Presided over moral meltdown and continuing rise of single parenthood, crime, gambling and drinking.
Presided over moral meltdown and continuing rise of single parenthood, crime, gambling and drinking.
Seems as though we've found the illicit lovechild of Joseph McCarthy and Mary Whitehouse.
Original post by DanB1991
Capitalism.... putting a man in chains of consumerism and saying he is free.
Socialism.... taking all a man owns away from him and saying he is free.
Tbh I think they're both as bad as each other.
Socialism.... taking all a man owns away from him and saying he is free.
Tbh I think they're both as bad as each other.
Labour is right for Britain
Original post by Bill_Gates
Labour is right for Britain
Think I'd rather vote putin if we needed a politician that was "right" for Britain.... Would I really vote for him? No... tbh I think we need a new major political party.
It's a very objective statement but hey hoe :P lol
Original post by DanB1991
Think I'd rather vote putin if we needed a politician that was "right" for Britain.... Would I really vote for him? No... tbh I think we need a new major political party.
It's a very objective statement but hey hoe :P lol
It's a very objective statement but hey hoe :P lol
You cannot shift too far from the centre
No. They were and still are a massive joke and they only lasted so long in office because of the stigma around the Tory party that remained from Thatchers era. The number of people who vote Labour purely on the premise that they hate the Tories because of Thatcher is disturbing. The number of people who vote Labour who also fail to grasp simple economics is also disturbing.
But its okay as long as we keep giving away more money to countries like Argentina isn't it?
I'll be voting UKIP without hesitation at the next election. Im passed caring for other countries. I want the great back in Great Britain so my children can grow up with job prospects and common sense and not face the bureaucratic oppression that comes from being part of the EU.
If you wish to live in a country where your dictated to by a false democracy in Brussels then fair enough but just remember when you've rolled over just what your ancestors fought and died for in the 1940's. Im fed up of the clueless notion that the EU is democratic. If so, why aren't those in power elected? If so, why do we have to comply with their regulations and rights?
Dictatorship and tyranny all over it.
But its okay as long as we keep giving away more money to countries like Argentina isn't it?
I'll be voting UKIP without hesitation at the next election. Im passed caring for other countries. I want the great back in Great Britain so my children can grow up with job prospects and common sense and not face the bureaucratic oppression that comes from being part of the EU.
If you wish to live in a country where your dictated to by a false democracy in Brussels then fair enough but just remember when you've rolled over just what your ancestors fought and died for in the 1940's. Im fed up of the clueless notion that the EU is democratic. If so, why aren't those in power elected? If so, why do we have to comply with their regulations and rights?
Dictatorship and tyranny all over it.
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