Nottingham Trent/City University London/Westminster University for Law?

You are wasting your time if you want to work in a City law firm. If you want to work in a high street firm in Nottingham, then Trent, if London, City - and try to get work experience with firms which might take you on whilst at university.

City firms don't accept less than AAB, they can make exceptions if you went somewhere good like Bristol or if you have a first...but they won't for these universities. You will be filtered out. A first from any of these universities will give you good opportunities both within and outside law -- but even with a first from City you will struggle to get a London law firm, especially given your A-levels. City is the best university of these and most well known - but honestly it is not a good university. I can't recommend you go there though - look on unistats, about 1-3% get firsts, 35% 2:2s. Trent has a higher number of firsts, 11%, but more 2:2s and 3rds, around 45%. Basically you have to be right at the top of the cohort in the year to even stand a shot at some firms which is far from guaranteed.

You are better off applying for a less competitive course elsewhere. Quite frankly a lot of employers will bin your CV from these universities. I've got a first from a Russell, and a load of work experience, and am currently working in a crap job I hate. I don't want to sound jaded, but the graduate recruitment market absolutely sucks. I'm starting to apply for training contracts now I think, having decided to leave it for a bit - I reckon I might get a few interviews, but most will reject me beforehand. It is simply that competitive.

In sum, it comes down to a) do you want to paralegal b) end up in a high street firm. If you are happy with these outcomes, then choose the university nearest the area you want to ultimately live and work.

I saw in another law thread that someone who went to Nottingham Trent had a TC with a magic circle firm
He had a 1st and a lot of extra-curriculars

What did you mean by that?

I want to work in London firms, I born, bred and raised there - I moved to Nottingham with my family last year - but my mum is pushing me to go to Trent rather than return to London.

I only want to apply for unis in Nottingham and London, anywhere else it's living in student rents for three/four years - I would only be prepared to do that if it was Oxbridge - but realistically I cannot get into the Russell Groups, they're asking for A*AA - grades I cannot get (I could but I'm being completely realistic so it's off my list)

I was asking about the uni's as a whole, I keep getting mixed opinions: it's either really good/good/alright/bad/really bad - I'm going to their open days in a few months time, but I just wanted a clear-cut rating of it - I mean you said to a Russell Group (which one?) so you know, you can easily dismiss unis under the top 20 on league tables.

Oh and I want to be a solicitor, I was originally intending to be a barrister, but being self-employed wouldn't work for me

You are wasting your time if you want to work in a City law firm. If you want to work in a high street firm in Nottingham, then Trent, if London, City - and try to get work experience with firms which might take you on whilst at university.

City firms don't accept less than AAB, they can make exceptions if you went somewhere good like Bristol or if you have a first...but they won't for these universities. You will be filtered out. A first from any of these universities will give you good opportunities both within and outside law -- but even with a first from City you will struggle to get a London law firm, especially given your A-levels. City is the best university of these and most well known - but honestly it is not a good university. I can't recommend you go there though - look on unistats, about 1-3% get firsts, 35% 2:2s. Trent has a higher number of firsts, 11%, but more 2:2s and 3rds, around 45%. Basically you have to be right at the top of the cohort in the year to even stand a shot at some firms which is far from guaranteed.

You are better off applying for a less competitive course elsewhere. Quite frankly a lot of employers will bin your CV from these universities. I've got a first from a Russell, and a load of work experience, and am currently working in a crap job I hate. I don't want to sound jaded, but the graduate recruitment market absolutely sucks. I'm starting to apply for training contracts now I think, having decided to leave it for a bit - I reckon I might get a few interviews, but most will reject me beforehand. It is simply that competitive.

In sum, it comes down to a) do you want to paralegal b) end up in a high street firm. If you are happy with these outcomes, then choose the university nearest the area you want to ultimately live and work.

Most of what you have said is correct apart from on thing. Only the very top City firms require AAB such as the Magic and Silver Circle. The vast majority set filters at ABB from what I have seen.
Examples:
DLA Piper, Charles Russel, Eversheds, Henmans Freath, Taylor Wessing and CMS to mention a few.

I was pretty clear - don't do law, you don't have the grades for a good uni - do something else at any Russell Group, or one of the better 1994 Groups.

I reported the other guy's post for referencing a linkedin profile of a student. It's not fair for me to say, but I will because moderation should have removed it, that the person doesn't even have a training contract. Simply put, the guy's a moron and you don't want to listen to him.

Realistically if you go to one of these universities and end up with a 2:1, you will find it very difficult even getting into a high street criminal firm in London. I have friends with 2:1s from Russell Groups like UCL who struggled to get a high street TC in London, and did the LPC unfunded first. You can also see the odds at a first at these universities in law can be quite low especially compared to other subjects.

I'm not sure if you're trolling, but I consider this to be good advice. If you want to go to one of these places anyway and want to ignore me relying on that one guy you heard about on a forum who got a first from Trent and made it all the way to the magic circle, you go do that.

You are wasting your time if you want to work in a City law firm. If you want to work in a high street firm in Nottingham, then Trent, if London, City - and try to get work experience with firms which might take you on whilst at university.

City firms don't accept less than AAB, they can make exceptions if you went somewhere good like Bristol or if you have a first...but they won't for these universities. You will be filtered out. A first from any of these universities will give you good opportunities both within and outside law -- but even with a first from City you will struggle to get a London law firm, especially given your A-levels. City is the best university of these and most well known - but honestly it is not a good university. I can't recommend you go there though - look on unistats, about 1-3% get firsts, 35% 2:2s. Trent has a higher number of firsts, 11%, but more 2:2s and 3rds, around 45%. Basically you have to be right at the top of the cohort in the year to even stand a shot at some firms which is far from guaranteed.

You are better off applying for a less competitive course elsewhere. Quite frankly a lot of employers will bin your CV from these universities. I've got a first from a Russell, and a load of work experience, and am currently working in a crap job I hate. I don't want to sound jaded, but the graduate recruitment market absolutely sucks. I'm starting to apply for training contracts now I think, having decided to leave it for a bit - I reckon I might get a few interviews, but most will reject me beforehand. It is simply that competitive.

In sum, it comes down to a) do you want to paralegal b) end up in a high street firm. If you are happy with these outcomes, then choose the university nearest the area you want to ultimately live and work.

Hi! I have found your reply to the thread very helpful actually. And I have got a question to you myself, I am kind of in a dilemma right now. I need to decide between City University and Southampton and the only thing that confuses me is that one of the unis is at London whereas the other is at Southampton(which looks like a really small and bad city). Don't you think it's easier in London for example to get involved with other things that could fill the CV whereas in Southampton it's just the student societies? Well, is it worth to go to Southampton because it's just Russell Group? Do you think it's really important for me to choose Southampton over City in order to get into a magic circle firm later? Thanks a lot!

Hi! I have found your reply to the thread very helpful actually. And I have got a question to you myself, I am kind of in a dilemma right now. I need to decide between City University and Southampton and the only thing that confuses me is that one of the unis is at London whereas the other is at Southampton(which looks like a really small and bad city). Don't you think it's easier in London for example to get involved with other things that could fill the CV whereas in Southampton it's just the student societies? Well, is it worth to go to Southampton because it's just Russell Group? Do you think it's really important for me to choose Southampton over City in order to get into a magic circle firm later? Thanks a lot!

I was pretty clear - don't do law, you don't have the grades for a good uni - do something else at any Russell Group, or one of the better 1994 Groups.

I reported the other guy's post for referencing a linkedin profile of a student. It's not fair for me to say, but I will because moderation should have removed it, that the person doesn't even have a training contract. Simply put, the guy's a moron and you don't want to listen to him.

Realistically if you go to one of these universities and end up with a 2:1, you will find it very difficult even getting into a high street criminal firm in London. I have friends with 2:1s from Russell Groups like UCL who struggled to get a high street TC in London, and did the LPC unfunded first. You can also see the odds at a first at these universities in law can be quite low especially compared to other subjects.

I'm not sure if you're trolling, but I consider this to be good advice. If you want to go to one of these places anyway and want to ignore me relying on that one guy you heard about on a forum who got a first from Trent and made it all the way to the magic circle, you go do that.

You are wasting your time if you want to work in a City law firm. If you want to work in a high street firm in Nottingham, then Trent, if London, City - and try to get work experience with firms which might take you on whilst at university.

City firms don't accept less than AAB, they can make exceptions if you went somewhere good like Bristol or if you have a first...but they won't for these universities. You will be filtered out. A first from any of these universities will give you good opportunities both within and outside law -- but even with a first from City you will struggle to get a London law firm, especially given your A-levels. City is the best university of these and most well known - but honestly it is not a good university. I can't recommend you go there though - look on unistats, about 1-3% get firsts, 35% 2:2s. Trent has a higher number of firsts, 11%, but more 2:2s and 3rds, around 45%. Basically you have to be right at the top of the cohort in the year to even stand a shot at some firms which is far from guaranteed.

You are better off applying for a less competitive course elsewhere. Quite frankly a lot of employers will bin your CV from these universities. I've got a first from a Russell, and a load of work experience, and am currently working in a crap job I hate. I don't want to sound jaded, but the graduate recruitment market absolutely sucks. I'm starting to apply for training contracts now I think, having decided to leave it for a bit - I reckon I might get a few interviews, but most will reject me beforehand. It is simply that competitive.

In sum, it comes down to a) do you want to paralegal b) end up in a high street firm. If you are happy with these outcomes, then choose the university nearest the area you want to ultimately live and work.