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Are ugly people Immoral?

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I can't imagine spending my whole life with someone who has a godawful personality.
Original post by Elie Bergman
Yes I understand, but why!? I could not care how crap someones personality is, if they are beautiful, It makes up for it and hundred times and more! Why is this view so rare and unpopular. It seems so natural to me.


Because beauty fades
Reply 22
Original post by brownbearxo
Because beauty fades


Beauty does fade. When your partner is no longer beautiful it is high time to find another. Marriage should definitely be avoided for all up and coming aesthetes.
Original post by Elie Bergman
But this is simply wrong. Your not ugly. You may be considered mean or immoral or something of this sort, but beauty cares not for morals.



its not wrong!

i get your point but i dont think you are seeing mine!

its like if you have a crappy personality then you become ugly regardless of whether you are physically beautiful!

however, if you have a wonderful personality then you become beautiful regardless of whether you are physically beautiful or not!
Reply 24
Original post by cupcakes87
its not wrong!

i get your point but i dont think you are seeing mine!

its like if you have a crappy personality then you become ugly regardless of whether you are physically beautiful!

however, if you have a wonderful personality then you become beautiful regardless of whether you are physically beautiful or not!


Clearly I cannot win here. You seem to be convinced that physical beauty and inner personality are somehow intertwined. Under this false conviction you may have your way.
Original post by Elie Bergman
Clearly I cannot win here. You seem to be convinced that physical beauty and inner personality are somehow intertwined. Under this false conviction you may have your way.


:facepalm:


i tried to educate you!!

each to their own i suppose!! inner beauty over physical beauty

lol @ false conviction!!

i win anyway!! :lol:

Bye!!
I think everyone is shallow.

People who call other people shallow are the worst. Because they feel better than everyone else because they're 'deep'.

Liking someone for their personality is just as shallow as liking someone for their looks.

Looks and personality are both aspects that someone cannot change drastically. So you can pick either one and you're still being attracted to something that the other person has no control over. What are you going to do when you knowingly marry someone that you find ugly, then 5 years of fapping later you finally get sick of it and cheat on them.

edit:And what someone chooses to do to their appearance is just an outward reflection of their personality. Like changing your hair colour or wearing a star wars T-shirt. Also if you choose to play sports and have certain hobbies it will show on your body by becoming athletic, same with sitting around and eating crisps all day you'l become fat.

Silly immature people like to throw the word shallow around. At the end of the day I wan't someone whos a 10/10 for me in ALL aspects including hotness. Them soulmates.
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 27
Original post by ChickenMadness
I think everyone is shallow.

People who call other people shallow are the worst. Because they feel better than everyone else because they're 'deep'.

Liking someone for their personality is just as shallow as liking someone for their looks.

Looks and personality are both aspects that someone cannot change drastically. So you can pick either one and you're still being attracted to something that the other person has no control over. What are you going to do when you knowingly marry someone that you find ugly, then 5 years of fapping later you finally get sick of it and cheat on them.

Silly immature people like to throw the word shallow around. At the end of the day I wan't someone whos a 10/10 for me in ALL aspects including hotness. Them soulmates.


I almost agree with you here. People are certainly very pious when it comes to judgement. On the one hand they say 'you should not judge other people' and on the other, they judge all who disagree with this injunction, and call them shallow and so on... However it is definitely not shallow to judge someone on their beauty! Whoever propagated the idea that it is immoral to judge someone on factors they cannot control is a devil of innermost hell, and a most mischievous devil indeed. Even personality factors are predetermined. Men are born with certain genes which predispose them to be violent, gentle. intelligent etc... And based on their environment, these qualities will be enforced or snuffed out. Free will does not even get his undersized foot in the door. To judge on that which cannot be controlled, is the only moral way to judge at all.
Lol youre right. But my life is too short to flit from one person to another. If it works for you good on ya though :smile:
Original post by Elie Bergman
Beauty does fade. When your partner is no longer beautiful it is high time to find another. Marriage should definitely be avoided for all up and coming aesthetes.
But even with aesthetes, your looks will fade. It is just not very intelligent to place all your pride in your appearance because that will go quicker than you imagine. I remember being pretty tidy, honed and toned in my early 20s, but I spent so much time being paranoid that people were flirting with me not because of how I was as a person but just because of my appearance which led to me having severe trust/suspicion issues.

My body isn't as honed as it was - although I don't consider myself ugly by any stretch I feel more of a comfort that my next partner will be with me because they love who I am rather than being infatuated because I'm conventionally hot.

I've heard (and it's quite misogynistic) that women after a certain age have to look after either their face OR their ass which although uncomfortable to hear is n't a comment I disagree with to be honest. You need a certain fat% to keep the face youthful at the expense of having a smaller/toned backside. That's unless you're naturally blessed with a firm butt.
Original post by Treeroy
A more interesting question might be: are you high?


Obviously trolling tbh.
Reply 31
Original post by clh_hilary
Obviously trolling tbh.


No. I'm actually not. Although I don't think ugly people are immoral, that was just for extra flavour.
Original post by Elie Bergman
Yes I understand, but why!? I could not care how crap someones personality is, if they are beautiful, It makes up for it and hundred times and more! Why is this view so rare and unpopular. It seems so natural to me.


No, to me if I refer to someone as 'beautiful', I'm talking about more than what they look like. I consider personality to be really important, if somebody is incredibly attractive but has a rubbish personality I wouldn't date them.
Original post by Elie Bergman
No. I'm actually not. Although I don't think ugly people are immoral, that was just for extra flavour.


You would deny it, wouldn't you?
I read the title as "Are ugly people immortal?"
Reply 35
Original post by Eveiebaby
But even with aesthetes, your looks will fade. It is just not very intelligent to place all your pride in your appearance because that will go quicker than you imagine. I remember being pretty tidy, honed and toned in my early 20s, but I spent so much time being paranoid that people were flirting with me not because of how I was as a person but just because of my appearance which led to me having severe trust/suspicion issues.

My body isn't as honed as it was - although I don't consider myself ugly by any stretch I feel more of a comfort that my next partner will be with me because they love who I am rather than being infatuated because I'm conventionally hot.

I've heard (and it's quite misogynistic) that women after a certain age have to look after either their face OR their ass which although uncomfortable to hear is n't a comment I disagree with to be honest. You need a certain fat% to keep the face youthful at the expense of having a smaller/toned backside. That's unless you're naturally blessed with a firm butt.


This is what I find unforgivable; that people are ashamed of their beauty! That they would rather someone love them for 'who they are' (if I may use so ignoble a phrase) than for their God Given Gorgeousness. Remember, you beauty makes you you! The idea that we are a soul, thrust into a human body is nonsense. Your flesh, your body, your face is all you! Someone who truly did love you for who you are would love you for your beauty.
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Original post by Ripper-Roo
You don't choose your looks.


To be honest this isn't entirely true. You choose your hairstyle, your clothes, how you look after your body (if I go to the gym i'll get muscle) (if I sit in bed all day watching porn i'll develop a pretty crappy posture), looks aren't entirely determined or genetic.
Reply 37
Original post by MidnightDream
I don't care how beautiful you are if your personality is crap


But it is so hard for an ugly person to even demonstrate their "good personality" as first impressions brush them aside. Plus confidence is destroyed because of the poor physical attributes. This results in people being more likely attracted to good looking people anyway.
Original post by Elie Bergman
This is what I find unforgivable; that people are ashamed of their beauty! That they would someone love them for 'who they are' (if I may use so ignoble a phrase) than for their God Given Gorgeousness. Remember, you beauty makes you you! The idea that we are a soul, thrust into a human body is nonsense. Your flesh, your body, your face is all you! Someone who truly did love you for who you are would love you for your beauty.


But I don't see the importance of being so proud of the way I look. I will look terrible one day and if I was surrounded by the people with your mindset I would be a social pariah. In old age we all look terrible and I think that is a humbling and sobering thought.

Spread your pride across your achievements and your hobbies. I'm learning to create music and hopefully the beauty of that will outlive the smoothness of my skin, blah blah.

What is your strategy then when you lose your looks?
Reply 39
Original post by I am not finite
To be honest this isn't entirely true. You choose your hairstyle, your clothes, how you look after your body (if I go to the gym i'll get muscle) (if I sit in bed all day watching porn i'll develop a pretty crappy posture), looks aren't entirely determined or genetic.


There is a great quote I read not to long ago:

"there is no such thing as an ugly woman, only a lazy one"

Perhaps this is what you meant?

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