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White girl privilege

This is something I was thinking about today and as a couple of initial points I want to get out of the way, I no personal issue with women who prefer men who are non-White and/or of a different ethnicity/ethnicities to myself. Secondly I do believe that sexual fetishes of foreign women are wrong.

Now that's out of the way

This is an example of a specific double standard I have noticed. Whenever a White women professes a preference for (for example) Black men, this is celebrated as a great thing, a "you go girl" moment, personally I couldn't care less about this, her choice, his choice but if anyone questions this, he is automatically a racist and/or insecure about his small penis.


However, as soon as a White man professes a preference for Asian women, eyebrows are raised, to say the least. He is a pervert with a fetish, the lowest of the low. Like I said, I am deeply uncomfortable with the idea of race-based fetishes (mainly because I think that people who have them are creating a relationship with an idea rather than a person which is hurtful to the person being fetishised) but there is a definite sense that the sexuality of a White woman is perfect and should never be questioned but that that same thing for a White man is dirty and shameful.

Even compare how much people talk about middle class White men going on sex-tours of South East Asia, this is repugnant in my mind, but the same thing of White women going on sex-tours of the Caribbean or Africa to exploit impoverished young Black boys, is never called into question.

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2013/08/meet-middle-aged-women-who-are-britains-female-sex-tourists

thoughts? :curious:
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There's a difference between finding someone attractive and fetishising people of colour.

I personally haven't seen any examples of white women fetishising men if colour (I know it happens though, black men big dicks) but if they did I think that would get called out..

I have no problem with men preferring Asian women as long as they're not wanting them because you expect them to behave in a submissive docile way
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
There's a difference between finding someone attractive and fetishising people of colour.

I personally haven't seen any examples of white women fetishising men if colour (I know it happens though, black men big dicks) but if they did I think that would get called out..

I have no problem with men preferring Asian women as long as they're not wanting them because you expect them to behave in a submissive docile way



Is there a reason (in your mind) why men would be more likely to create racial fetishes than women?
Original post by yo radical one
This is something I was thinking about today and as a couple of initial points I want to get out of the way, I no personal issue with women who prefer men who are non-White and/or of a different ethnicity/ethnicities to myself. Secondly I do believe that sexual fetishes of foreign women are wrong.

Now that's out of the way

This is an example of a specific double standard I have noticed. Whenever a White women professes a preference for (for example) Black men, this is celebrated as a great thing, a "you go girl" moment, personally I couldn't care less about this, her choice, his choice but if anyone questions this, he is automatically a racist and/or insecure about his small penis.


However, as soon as a White man professes a preference for Asian women, eyebrows are raised, to say the least. He is a pervert with a fetish, the lowest of the low. Like I said, I am deeply uncomfortable with the idea of race-based fetishes (mainly because I think that people who have them are creating a relationship with an idea rather than a person which is hurtful to the person being fetishised) but there is a definite sense that the sexuality of a White woman is perfect and should never be questioned but that that same thing for a White man is dirty and shameful.

Even compare how much people talk about middle class White men going on sex-tours of South East Asia, this is repugnant in my mind, but the same thing of White women going on sex-tours of the Caribbean or Africa to exploit impoverished young Black boys, is never called into question.

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2013/08/meet-middle-aged-women-who-are-britains-female-sex-tourists

thoughts? :curious:


Rubbish.

White women in this country historically have been treated terribly in their own communities for pursuing relationships with men of other ethnicity. It's only really in modern times that the attitude has started to subside.
Original post by yo radical one
Is there a reason (in your mind) why men would be more likely to create racial fetishes than women?


Certain men who want a "traditional" woman might decide to look in more "traditional" countries, which tend to be countries where women are foreign. They then start stereotyping women who come from those countries as "traditional"
Original post by MrFlash1994
Rubbish.

White women in this country historically have been treated terribly in their own communities for pursuing relationships with men of other ethnicity. It's only really in modern times that the attitude has started to subside.


Any worse than White men? Society has always been xenophobic. Women can be tribalistic too.

Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
Certain men who want a "traditional" woman might decide to look in more "traditional" countries, which tend to be countries where women are foreign. They then start stereotyping women who come from those countries as "traditional"


Not all fetishes work that way. Black women are fetishised for being horny and aggressive in bed, you could say they are fetishised in almost the opposite way to Asians. I meant biologically really, why would men be more likely to do this than women? There seems no reason I can think of.
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Original post by yo radical one
Any worse than White men? Society has always been xenophobic. Women can be tribalistic too.



Not all fetishes work that way. Black women are fetishised for being Horny and aggressive in bed, you could say they are fetishised in almost the opposite way to Asians. I meant biologically really, why would men be more likely to do this than women? There seems no reason I can think of.


Because society has encouraged men to sexualise women more than it's encouraged women to sexualise men.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
Because society has encouraged men to sexualise women more than it's encouraged women to sexualise men.


Does it?

If a man talks about masturbation it's disgusting (I agree, he should keep that thing to himself or his partner if he has one), but if a woman does, it's seen as cool and liberating.
Original post by yo radical one
Does it?

If a man talks about masturbation it's disgusting (I agree, he should keep that thing to himself or his partner if he has one), but if a woman does, it's seen as cool and liberating.

Yes it does. Page 3, strip clubs, sexy adverts of non sexy things, lads mags, comments to women walking past (nice tits love), porn being all about the man being satisfied and not the woman, derogatory sexy things said to women, arse slapping, I could go on. Obviously some if these happen to men too but not to the extent
Original post by yo radical one
Any worse than White men? Society has always been xenophobic. Women can be tribalistic too.


I wouldn't say it's strictly a question of women or men, but of class. For example no man or woman ever looked down the members of the British raj fathering "half-caste" children, or Lord Byron chasing after handsome Middle Eastern boys.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
Yes it does. Page 3, strip clubs, sexy adverts of non sexy things, lads mags, comments to women walking past (nice tits love), porn being all about the man being satisfied and not the woman, derogatory sexy things said to women, arse slapping, I could go on. Obviously some if these happen to men too but not to the extent


Ass slapping is harassment, certainly not accepted.

I don't really understand how porn is or could be made to appeal to men (not sure if I should ask...)

The rest I wouldn't say are socially acceptable, men who gawp over page 3, who go to strip clubs, are seen as the lowest of the low, pathetic losers etc (I agree actually) but women enjoying pornography, erotic novels etc is accepted.

Original post by MrFlash1994
I wouldn't say it's strictly a question of women or men, but of class. For example no man or woman ever looked down the members of the British raj fathering "half-caste" children, or Lord Byron chasing after handsome Middle Eastern boys.


I highly doubt Byron's exploits in the Orient would have been accepted, I mean they didn't really like gays back than did they tbh?
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Original post by yo radical one
Ass slapping is harassment, certainly not accepted.

I don't really understand how porn is or could be made to appeal to men (not sure if I should ask...)

The rest I wouldn't say are socially acceptable, men who gawp over page 3, who go to strip clubs, are seen as the lowest of the low, pathetic losers etc (I agree actually) but women enjoying pornography, erotic novels etc is accepted.


It's pretty accepted in clubs. As for the other things, they're seen as LADDISH or cool if the guys are good looking and rich. Basically posh white men.

This is only recently. Plus as a woman, you're not allowed too much. You have to be JUST sexy enough so as to not be frigid, but not THAT sexy, otherwise you're a slut
I didn't think there was a double standard when it comes both genders preferring a different race. People can date who they want.

Though as an Oriental guy who really likes white girls, I just wish white girls liked Oriental guys as much as white guys like Oriental girls. :frown:
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Sexually preferring a certain ethnicity for aesthetic reasons is not a problem but if ye expect them to conform to a stereotype then there is certainly an racist element to it.
White women are the undisputed goddesses of planet Earth :colondollar:
Not really, you see "Once you go black, we don't want you back" stuff all the time.

As for the WM/EAW relationship, I really think the Vietnam War screwed over the view of those relationships, the "me love you long time" jokes and the East Asian woman as a possession idea.

I might be biased but considering the worse history between blacks and whites, I'd say relations between them are more seen as illegitimate and lustful, whereas white and east asian relations can be more based on friendship, especially in a 'mutual attraction between nerds' kind of way
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
I personally haven't seen any examples of white women fetishising men if colour (I know it happens though, black men big dicks)

It's rife on Tumblr; I think it's ****ing disgusting tbh
Original post by goldie56
Not really, you see "Once you go black, we don't want you back" stuff all the time.

As for the WM/EAW relationship, I really think the Vietnam War screwed over the view of those relationships, the "me love you long time" jokes and the East Asian woman as a possession idea.

I might be biased but considering the worse history between blacks and whites, I'd say relations between them are more seen as illegitimate and lustful, whereas white and east asian relations can be more based on friendship, especially in a 'mutual attraction between nerds' kind of way


Errrr... three wars with East Asian countries in living memory and Oriental guys being seen as undatable and Hollywoods jester. :K: I know that is just the USA but they're influence on the rest of the world (especially English speaking countries) is very powerful.
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I'd say overall it's a lot better to be a male minority in this country than a female minority , especially if you're attractive tbh
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Original post by yo radical one
I highly doubt Byron's exploits in the Orient would have been accepted, I mean they didn't really like gays back than did they tbh?


Correct. It was culturally unacceptable in Britain—a hanging offence to be exact—to practice homosexuality. Byron, however, did adhere (at times) to cultural appropriateness and contrived only to practice sodomy within the countries it was considered acceptable.

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