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What do you think of the "Great Books" movement?

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Would you take a course in "Great Books" ?

I recently discovered the "Great Books" movement and thought it was interesting (see description below). Some remnants of it survive at some liberal arts colleges in the US. There are even some colleges which have put them at the heart of their curriculum (here and here). I'm not suggesting this should be implemented at schools or universities in the UK - I actually think that while it would be very rewarding, it would probably be too tough for modern day students to handle. However, I would be interested in what you think.

The "Great Books" movement started in the 1920s in the US. I will quote a description from wikipedia:

The Great Books of the Western World came about as the result of a discussion among American academics and educators, starting in the 1920s and 1930s and begun by Prof. John Erskine of Columbia University,[8] about how to improve the higher education system by returning it to the western liberal arts tradition of broad cross-disciplinary learning. These academics and educators included Robert Hutchins, Mortimer Adler, Stringfellow Barr, Scott Buchanan, Jacques Barzun, and Alexander Meiklejohn. The view among them was that the emphasis on narrow specialization in American colleges had harmed the quality of higher education by failing to expose students to the important products of Western civilization and thought.

They were at odds both with much of the existing educational establishment and with contemporary educational theory. Educational theorists like Sidney Hook[9] and John Dewey (see pragmatism) disagreed with the premise that there was crossover in education (e.g. that a study of philosophy, formal logic, or rhetoric could be of use in medicine or economics).[citation needed]

This list of great books started out as 100 essential primary source texts considered to constitute the Western canon. This list was always intended to be tentative, although some consider it presumptuous to nominate 100 great books to the exclusion of all others.

The Great Books Program is a curriculum that makes use of this list of texts. As much as possible, students rely on primary sources. The emphasis is on open discussion with limited guidance by a professor, facilitator, or tutor. Students are also expected to write papers.


Here is the list of (517) books. Note that it includes original works of mathematics and science as well as literature and history.

If a "Great Books" course was offered at your school or university, NB as an additional course to broaden your general knowledge and understanding, complementing your other, specialised sixth form choices or degree, would you take it? You would probably have to read one original work per week and then discuss it in a seminar with other students.

Basically a book club about Great Books. Would you do it? Please vote in the poll.
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Reply 1
I recently started reading the great books, and I'm loving the experience. It's disappointing that the only great books I've read as part of my education were two of the Canterbury Tales, Romeo and Juliet, and Lord of the Flies (if you count that as a modern Great Book).

Among my recent reads have been Homer's Odyssey, Dante's Inferno, Cicero's Friendship and Old Age, a few Tolstoy short atories, the first book of the Elements, and a lot more besides. They've improved my life in so many ways - I'm only now starting to really feel like I understand society and all that comes with it. My only regret is not starting earlier. I urge you all to have a go.

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Reply 2
That's great! I also want to read all of them at some point in my life. Problem is, I want the set, but I don't want to buy it while I'm still "nomadic", as it were.
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Original post by llys
That's great! I also want to read all of them at some point in my life. Problem is, I want the set, but I don't want to buy it while I'm still "nomadic", as it were.


They're pretty much all available online if you look. There's a set of links here:

http://prodigalnomore.wordpress.com/great-books-of-the-western-world-as-free-ebooks/

I keep wanting to set up a great books reading club, but no-one else seems interested. The only other one I've found is 'Through The Great Books', which is one guy's reasing schedule through the Great Books plus the Gateway to the Great Books seriew (well worth a look too).
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Among my recent reads have been Homer's Odyssey, Dante's Inferno, Cicero's Friendship and Old Age, a few Tolstoy short atories, the first book of the Elements, and a lot more besides.
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Hey, I'm thinking of having a go at reading Dante's Inferno - which translation do you think is the closest to the original/easiest to read? thanks :biggrin:
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Original post by happysmile
Hey, I'm thinking of having a go at reading Dante's Inferno - which translation do you think is the closest to the original/easiest to read? thanks :biggrin:


I've heard good things about John Ciardi's translation, but I must say I'm no expert.

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I'd not take a course in it but there are certainly books on that list that i wish to read.
Fantastic idea, will go over the heads of the masses and I won't pretend to find it an easy chore, impossible to enforce on a curriculum. One step ahead of the Western literary canon which is inherently xenophobic and exclusive
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Original post by Smash Bandicoot
Fantastic idea, will go over the heads of the masses and I won't pretend to find it an easy chore, impossible to enforce on a curriculum. One step ahead of the Western literary canon which is inherently xenophobic and exclusive


Why must the politics of diversity and equality break into a book list? Nothing wrong with paying homage to western literature.
Original post by Rakas21
Why must the politics of diversity and equality break into a book list? Nothing wrong with paying homage to western literature.


The Canon contains masterpieces but by definition excludes others. It's great to have our cultural cake and eat it I say :tongue:
Original post by Smash Bandicoot
The Canon contains masterpieces but by definition excludes others. It's great to have our cultural cake and eat it I say :tongue:


I'd tend to agree and if there's a Japanese/Chinese book list then i'm sure they'll have some greats but it doesn't bother me if there's not.
I don't think I'd take a course in it but there are books on the list that I have read and want to read

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