Jobless must sign on every day. Govt to take away benefits if they do not comply

So you honestly believe that somebody unemployed for 3 years has been putting their all into it but has not been able to get even a job in a local pub?

more money, but the Tories will pay any price to hasten the arrival of the slave labour economy.

It's interesting that people often mention travel costs.

There aren't jobs..

Depending where they live, that is a very real possibility.

A claimant who lives in a small rural village like I used to (which has a bus service once a week to the nearest town) is not going to be able to find a job as easily as an equivalent-qualified claimant who lives in London.

Well of course people are going to mention travel costs, if the money isn't reimbursed (which I'm guessing it wouldn't be as it would cost extra tens of £millions) claimants would be spending almost half their JSA on traveling to and from the job centre, leaving them just £35 per week to buy all of their food and all of their pay bills. Living on £35 per week simply isn't feasible, so the ramifications of this policy boil down to people being thrown out on to the street and relying on (already overstretched) food banks, stealing or starving to death.

Normally i'd agree, but these are people claiming JSA for 3 years or more without a single month of employment. Unless you live in rurality there's no excuse for that (in which case you should arguably find a way to move).



It is being implemented (won't work 100% but will to some degree).

And in the 3 years of unemployment i'm sure they will have access to such schemes.

There are jobs in West Yorkshire even if menial. When I've wanted part time work I've always got it relatively quickly (or at least interviews anyway) and i'm nothing special academically. If your confident, friendly and have C grades at GCSE then you'll only get my sympathy if your living in rurality because major urban areas do have jobs even if they are less than ideal.

Oh i agree in that instance but i've not seen any location specific evidence yet with regards to these 200,000.



JSA is £70 and weekly bus passes are around £20.

There are jobs

Not true they seem to pick certain people to do it, myself as someone who had always worked and was my first and only spell of unemployment was put on the course. I know many people who have never worked in their adult lives (in the same area) and they have never been sent on such courses.

Some amount of strawmanning going on in this thread! The changes only apply to people who have been unemployed for at least 3 years. It`s NOT every JSA claimant! Whether it`s any good or not is a different matter, but why let the facts get in the way of a rant................

I haven`t read the independent article, but the changes affects those who have been on the Work Programme for more than 2 years. To get access to this you must be unemployed for a minimum of 12 months.

Even though the number of unemployed is about 5 times greater than the number of job vacancies, we're still blaming the unemployed? That makes perfect sense.

While decreasing the ability to do that?

I have no problem with initiatives which work, this however clearly would not and will also never be implemented.

I was unemployed and went on a work course after 6 months it was great and had something like an 80% success rate. You had to go in 9-5 5days a week for 2weeks. They gave practical advice for cvs/ personal statements/applications, provided internet access stamps and envelopes for applying. I think this sort of thing should be used more.

JSA is £70 and weekly bus passes are around £20.

I was forced onto a similar course after 6 months, mine was only 1 week and only 9-3 and I found it to be useless because I'd got all of that help from the university careers service and from a module in my degree anyway. They also did a maths and English assessment and I got full marks because I was only 6 months out of university, so that was a wasted assessment as well. The tutor on the course even told me to tell the job centre not to send me on any more college courses unless they were for a very specific thing that I didn't already have (hairdressing or something like that), because she couldn't teach me anything I didn't already know, and I was just wasting a place (and the money involved as well) by being there. The job centre also had to pay for my bus all week (£19) because I couldn't walk that far with a knee injury so it cost that as well. And it made me less effective at job searching because I couldn't get my dad to drop me off in a nearby town to go hand out CVs or sit in my the place where I volunteer which was a good atmosphere for job seeking - quiet but not too much, other job seekers sharing vacancies with you that they can't do but you might be able to.

I think they would probably be good for people that need them, but they shouldn't be compulsory because for some people they are at best useless, and at worst they are a waste of precious time and money.

And it made me less effective at job searching because I couldn't get my dad to drop me off in a nearby town to go hand out CVs or sit in my the place where I volunteer which was a good atmosphere for job seeking - quiet but not too much, other job seekers sharing vacancies with you that they can't do but you might be able to.

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