"the SUNNI prayer test" Iraq

The only country i can think of that comes close is Iran.

And yes, the only questionable law is homosexuality, but i will openly say Islam is against homosexuality.

These are not my words, but of a sunni scholar from al ahzar.



Yusri Rushdi al-Sayyid Jabr al-Husni, a Sunni Muslim religious scholar from the world's oldest and most prestigious Islamic school, the Honorable al-Azhar, has stated that Wahhabis who are also known by other names such as Salafis, Najdis, and Horners, are in fact the Horn of the Devil, a term used by the prophet Muhammad in reference to a
satanic faith that shall come out of Najd (Saudi Arabia).

Whahhabi'ism is a 200 year old ideology, heavily influenced by the works of Ibn Taymiyyah.

Some things Ibn Taymiyyah said:

In his book, Minhaj al Sunnah, volume 4, page 255, let us see what he has to say about the enemies of Ahlul Bayt:


"The person who killed Umar was a kafir, and had utmost hate for the religion of Islam, and so he killed Umar out of the hatred he had for the Prophet and his ummah", alright, no problem, now let us see what he says next,

"and as for the one who killed Ali, he was a believer, and would pray, and fast, and recite the Quran, and he killed Ali believing that Allah and his Prophet would be very happy that he killed Ali, and he did it out of love for Allah and his Prophet but he made a mistake"

A sunni sheikh of Al Ahzar university

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I know you Rafidah love abu lolo but he was a Kafir from the Persians.

Ibn Muljim was a khawarij who are the dogs of hell fire. They used to pray and do all the rituals (which is what Ibn Taymiyyah is saying ) but they were extreme in the deen and they killed the beloved Ali bin abi Talib (RadiAllahu anhu). The khawarij are criminals of the highest order and this is known.

I take my view from the Salaf.

But that isn't Sharia Law - if they were accused of being enemies of an Islamic state, they would have to be tried.

Salamunalaykum,

Please refer to me as a muslim, or as a jafari/shia muslim please. I do not want you to be using derogatory remarks like that.




With regards to Abu Lulu, it was Ali a.s who was Umar's aid , and we have hadiths stating,'had it not been for Ali Umar would have perished'. This is the level of respect/need Umar has for Ali a.s If Ali a.s did not kill or attack Umar, no-one accepts his murder.

Shia's do not consider Uthman as one of the ones we follow, but it is a complete lie we love his killer. It was Imam Ali a.s who was protecting Uthman and sacrificing his own sons safety to provide for him.

It's a little strange why Aisha and Muawiyah decided to wage war on Imam Ali a.s together(making up the excuse he didn't care for Uthman), as well as Muawiyah on Imam Hassan a.s (forced him into giving peace treaty) as well as the son of Muawiya Yazid who was responsible for the Murder of Hussain a.s. Notice a pattern?

Now let's go back to Ibn Taymiyyah:

Some things Ibn Taymiyyah said:

In his book, Minhaj al Sunnah, volume 4, page 255, let us see what he has to say about the enemies of Ahlul Bayt:


"The person who killed Umar was a kafir, and had utmost hate for the religion of Islam, and so he killed Umar out of the hatred he had for the Prophet and his ummah", alright, no problem, now let us see what he says next,

"and as for the one who killed Ali, he was a believer, and would pray, and fast, and recite the Quran, and he killed Ali believing that Allah and his Prophet would be very happy that he killed Ali, and he did it out of love for Allah and his Prophet but he made a mistake"


Imagine that. The one who killed Ali a.s would make the messenger of Allah swt happy! Imagine that! These are the words of Ibn Taymiyyah.

Ibn Taymiyyah heavily influenced the Wahhabi movement.

If i said -god forbid- the man who killed Abubakr would have pleased Muhammed pbuh, because he believed what he was doing was right, imagine the back-lash i would get.

But as it is about Ali a.s , a man who was cursed by Muawiyah/on every pulpit it's accepted.





I take my view from Muhammed pbuh and the ahlulbayt a.s transmitted through pious companions(r.a)

if your a Shiite living in iraq, it is advised that you learn the sunni prayers if your going to travel.

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He has yet to explain what a 'Wahhabi' is.

i don't need to explain, i just watch endless videos or Wahhabi's causing chaos in the world which makes us Muslims suffer as you call yourselves Muslim and commit these sort of atrocious crimes giving the rest of the world a bad impression of Islam, sunni's and shias were living in peace until the west created this wahabi sect to divide the muslims.

Asalamu alaykum.

Akhi, you're going to have to provide evidences for what you say. Have they clearly said this or is it just an assumption you've made?

I know of Shaykh Uthaymeen's (Rahimahullah) opinion on this which has been refuted but you made the claim that this particular group follows this opinion so you'll have to provide daleel.