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Is your sex life misogynistic?

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Original post by Bridget Jones
Oh for **** sake! Woman, jam that hype :huff: Your type of feminists are the reason why I'm ashamed to call myself a feminist! :rolleyes:


She's the BNP of feminism, you're more of a UKIP. Better but still pretty sour.
Reply 21
As a woman, I say that you are thinking way too much into it !!! :rolleyes:

What's wrong with wanting to be dominated? What girl wouldn't want her man being really rough with her, it's a huge turn on and makes ya feel all the more feminine.Anything other than that is plain boring!

I know not everyone likes that but to be honest I think it's the most natural thing in the world and I'm not afraid to say most women are submissive and most men are dominant. It all really just comes down to biology! :wink:
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Sigh. Why isn't there a safe space for men?, from women like you, trying to dehumanise and frown upon them for acting on natural sexual urges.
Original post by Queen Lupita
In our culture women are often treated like objects, especially with women of colour and how we are exocitized and fetishized. I think it's important to take a look at our sex lives and examine the reasons behind what we like and if any of those are sinister.

Obviously a lot of men partake in finding sexually violent and vulgar imagery and words arousing. With violent adjectives like "destroyed", "pounded" and "banged" all being used akin to an attack on a passive dehumanised victim, a thing, an achievement and conquest to be proud of feed their masculinity performance. I think if the guys you are sleeping with get off on degrading and dominating you, you should look closely in to that and check if it's influenced by latent or even obvious misgyonistic views. You should also look in to why you like be controlled and shamed with words like "slut" during sex, and address if it's perhaps you internalising sexism and also a bit of stockholm sydrome. If I was a black woman and I was sleeping with a white guy who used a racist fancy during sex, I'd definitely find that suspect, and these sexist actions should be treated no differently.

Saying women liking dominant men becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when we are constantly told this by society and not actually given a choice. Guys slave away in the gym obsessing over every muscle, worry about their penis size, their stamina, not because of the pleasure of the woman or her feelings, but because of how it makes themselves feel more masculine and like real men.

Every guy I have been with demonstrated things you see in graphic pornography and views of submissive women, this content is probably created for the misogynistic desire and not causing it, it just gives them more ideas. When 8 out of 10 guy call you a slut in bed and assume you like it that's a problem.


Don't tar all guys with the same brush. It does a disservice to both genders to do so.


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Original post by Birkenhead
She's the BNP of feminism, you're more of a UKIP. Better but still pretty sour.


I'll take that as a backhanded compliment, but I have to say: my position and views have changed radically since our last encounter

Original post by slade p
you should be ashamed just to be a feminist.


Thanks brah
women often do actually like dominant strong men, its an evolutionary trait, like men want to feel masculine, most men aren't as extreme as you describe though, Im sure most guys realize girls don't like being called a slut
Reply 26
Original post by Queen Lupita
In our culture women are often treated like objects, especially with women of colour and how we are exocitized and fetishized. I think it's important to take a look at our sex lives and examine the reasons behind what we like and if any of those are sinister.

Obviously a lot of men partake in finding sexually violent and vulgar imagery and words arousing. With violent adjectives like "destroyed", "pounded" and "banged" all being used akin to an attack on a passive dehumanised victim, a thing, an achievement and conquest to be proud of feed their masculinity performance. I think if the guys you are sleeping with get off on degrading and dominating you, you should look closely in to that and check if it's influenced by latent or even obvious misgyonistic views. You should also look in to why you like be controlled and shamed with words like "slut" during sex, and address if it's perhaps you internalising sexism and also a bit of stockholm sydrome. If I was a black woman and I was sleeping with a white guy who used a racist fancy during sex, I'd definitely find that suspect, and these sexist actions should be treated no differently.

Saying women liking dominant men becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when we are constantly told this by society and not actually given a choice. Guys slave away in the gym obsessing over every muscle, worry about their penis size, their stamina, not because of the pleasure of the woman or her feelings, but because of how it makes themselves feel more masculine and like real men.

Every guy I have been with demonstrated things you see in graphic pornography and views of submissive women, this content is probably created for the misogynistic desire and not causing it, it just gives them more ideas. When 8 out of 10 guy call you a slut in bed and assume you like it that's a problem.

What you describe is not for me. And while I am appalled by the prevalence of crude and misogynistic pornography I struggle to accept that 8/10 men would do that. It's not my experience of my associates, male or female.
Original post by ILovePancakes
My sex life isn't misogynistic.

It's non-existent.


Same here :biggrin:
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Fair enough. you got me this time :biggrin:


I'm watching :worm:
Original post by redferry
I'm watching :worm:


Still not a pedophile though.
Original post by lucas13
women often do actually like dominant strong men, its an evolutionary trait, like men want to feel masculine, most men aren't as extreme as you describe though, Im sure most guys realize girls don't like being called a slut


So how do you explain the whole men liking to be dominated by a women in the bedroom?
Some women like to be Dominated and for the man to be incontrol ? if they didnt like it, they would dump their boyfriends
Why do you care

Also nothing wrong with men aspiring to be strong and alpha. Men should be strong and tough,not weak and feminine
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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
So how do you explain the whole men liking to be dominated by a women in the bedroom?


another evolutionary trait, dominating can be scary which leads to an adrenelin rush which people like as it stimulates the brain.
Reply 33
You make me want to bang my head off a wall. More absolute tripe being thrown around as fact.
Original post by Queen Lupita
In our culture women are often treated like objects, especially with women of colour and how we are exocitized and fetishized. I think it's important to take a look at our sex lives and examine the reasons behind what we like and if any of those are sinister.

Obviously a lot of men partake in finding sexually violent and vulgar imagery and words arousing. With violent adjectives like "destroyed", "pounded" and "banged" all being used akin to an attack on a passive dehumanised victim, a thing, an achievement and conquest to be proud of feed their masculinity performance. I think if the guys you are sleeping with get off on degrading and dominating you, you should look closely in to that and check if it's influenced by latent or even obvious misgyonistic views. You should also look in to why you like be controlled and shamed with words like "slut" during sex, and address if it's perhaps you internalising sexism and also a bit of stockholm sydrome. If I was a black woman and I was sleeping with a white guy who used a racist fancy during sex, I'd definitely find that suspect, and these sexist actions should be treated no differently.

Saying women liking dominant men becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when we are constantly told this by society and not actually given a choice. Guys slave away in the gym obsessing over every muscle, worry about their penis size, their stamina, not because of the pleasure of the woman or her feelings, but because of how it makes themselves feel more masculine and like real men.

Every guy I have been with demonstrated things you see in graphic pornography and views of submissive women, this content is probably created for the misogynistic desire and not causing it, it just gives them more ideas. When 8 out of 10 guy call you a slut in bed and assume you like it that's a problem.


I actually recently had a very candid chat about "gender role" dynamics in the bedroom with one of my friends who identifies as pansexual. In my opinion some people are simply born "subs" and others "doms" and still others are "switches", so use the lingo. My friend is in a stable and completely equal relationship with a male, but she is also a submissive in bed. You'd never guess it from her outward demenor, but she simply can't get off unless she's in a submissive position. She needs to be called names and restrained in 'scenes' or else she simply doesn't enjoy herself.

For me, when I was still identifying as female, I found sex to be a chore because most of the men I dated at the time were dominants and I simply was not a submissive. I forced myself to act "subby" to please them (which was also part of the issue). But, then I met a male who was a sub in bed (again, I don't think dominant and submissive behaviour inside the bedroom has much to do with behavour outside of the bedroom) and I found that I enjoyed sex with him immensely because I always topped and I could to pull his hair and bite him etc. While I was still exploring I also dated a guy who was very much a dom in the bedroom (and again, a sweet, considerate, and loving person outside of it), and I HATED being in that position. I later slept with a girl who was sweet, shy, and soft-spoken by nature, but inside the bedroom I was shocked to find that she was into spanking her partner, face slapping, using words like "slut", and leaving bruises as well as spitting on her partners... (which wasn't enjoyable for me at all).

I don't think dom or sub behaviour in the bedroom has much to do with non-sexual activities or personality. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that "submissiveness" or "dominance" in the bedroom had to do with foetal hormone exposure, much like sexual orientation and gender identity.

Though you might not get off on being called "whore", some girls do and so do some guys. It's just another one of those interesting facets of human sexuality that we probably won't ever compleately understand. I think it is important that you communicate with your partner(s) so that they know what is kosher in bed ahead of time and so you know what they are into. Going back to my experience with the girl who was secretly a dom, I would have REALLY benefitted from knowing what she was into ahead of time. I think she was probably afraid that I'd back out of it once I knew and wanted to ease me into it... but yeah, don't do that!

Safe words are also important, I think, even if you are having sex that is completely vanilla. I was being pegged by a girl once and at one point it started to hurt like hell but do to a miscommunication she didn't know that I wanted to stop and I had to forcefully push her off to prevent myself from being injured and that completely killed the mood. Beyond making certain that your partner is always concenting to all that you'd like to engage in, safe words can also be used to call time-out if you are in pain in any way.

SET UP GROUND RULES BEFORE SEXUAL ENCOUNTERS HAPPEN! Everyone is better off that way: you know what not to do and also how to turn your partner on by finding out what both of you are into.

Pornography is another discussion for me, as I find much of it unethical and you are hard pressed to find any free and ethical porn sites. So, I'm just commenting on the idea of gender roles in the bedroom.

Also, you should check out this play by, Peter Ackerman. Your comment about racial slurs in bed reminded me of it.


tldr:
Dominant and submissive sexual behaviour has nothing to do with sex, gender, or sexual orientation. Dom =/= male. Sub =/= female. Sexual preferences or vulgar language kinks =/= inherent sexism. If your partner is doing something that makes you feel uncomfortable in bed, say something! If your partner is not pleasing you, then don't just appease his or her ego by pretending to enjoy yourself. Sex should be fun for both parties.


Also, please please please, stop generalising all men and all women.
You're the biggest sexist on this forum
Reply 36
You wouldn't happen to be the author of this site would you OP?

http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

Cause she also takes feminism to such extremes, that its hard to know whether its satire or not :rolleyes:
Reply 37
Misogynist, oppressive, cis-male scum checking in here OP
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Oh ffs come off it, you're so hypocritical - as a feminist you believe (or should according to feminism) that women have personal freedom and choice yet here you are condemning their choice and telling them to think a certain way? :dry:
Maybe you're the misogynist here.
This is just ridiculous. Just because someone likes to dominate during sex does not mean that they have this subconscious desire to control and dominate every aspect of their partners life. It just means they get off on it so they do it for pleasure. There are plenty of relationships where the man acts as the submissive one during sex. Also studies show that a good number of women fantasise about rape. Does that mean that they have this desire to be raped? It does not. They are just doing what it takes to experience pleasure.

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