Oxford / Durham undergraduates "Top 5 bums" - is this misogynist?

The Tab has the best undergraduate bums of 2014. I think that as they have both the guys and the girls, it seems perfectly harmless to me but I'm aware there has been some feminist chatter on the interwebs.

The feminist chatter is that the girls who submitted their pictures have "false consciousness" and are perpetuating the patriarchy, whereas when a boy shows his bum that's actually an assertion of male dominance :dontknow:

Personally I think it's *******s

http://durham.tab.co.uk/2014/05/07/best-bums-2014/

For the record, Paul from Van Mildert (the number 4 on the guys) gets me vote. Great bum, nice legs. All I can say is phwoar (and if I were to vote for one of the girls, Lizzie from St Cuths... numero cinq du mesdamoiselles, comme on dit)

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Would bang Dave.

I wouldn't say so as both women and men are included. Looking at the men made me feel much more uncomfortable though; it just seems normal to see women like that but when it's men it feels a bit gross. :dontknow:

Reply 3

MostUncivilised

Original post by ArtGoblin

Why gross? I think that's a bit sexist, it's been recognised since ancient times that young guys generally have better bums than girls (hence the saying, "She's got a bum like a 16 year old boy").

I don't see what's gross about the male body, I've always found it a bit objectionable that some women snigger about the male body and make idiotic comments like that it's "awkward" compared to women's bodies. The Greeks and Romans had the right idea

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Reply 4

Moosferatu

Original post by MostUncivilised

Would bang.

Reply 5

BoudicaForever

Original post by ArtGoblin

That's because women are treated as sex objects every single day.

Reply 6

ArtGoblin

Original post by MostUncivilised

Isn't saying a woman has a 'boy's bum' was an insult? I don't know why I find men's bodies weird to look at but I suspect it's because they just aren't shown to the same extent as women's bodies. When men are shown in a sexual way it just somehow feels wrong in a way that it doesn't with a woman because we're so used to women being sexualised. Boys probably don't find women's bodies 'awkward' because they're so used to seeing them in our society.

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Reply 7

MostUncivilised

Original post by ArtGoblin

Isn't saying a woman has a 'boy's bum' an insult?

Not at all, girls at that age tend to have a rather greater proportion of fat, whereas boys bums tend to be better proportioned, pert etc.

I don't know why I find men's bodies weird to look at but I suspect it's because they just aren't shown to the same extent as women's bodies. When men are shown in a sexual way it just somehow feels wrong in a way that it doesn't with a woman because we're so used to women being sexualised. Boys probably don't find women's bodies 'awkward' because they're so used to seeing them in our society

I understand what you're saying, I just thought "gross" was a rather visceral word to use about the male anatomy. I think that for a long time there was body shaming of men, where women snigger at men's penises as though there's something odd about them. It was not uncommon for women to say that women had better bodies than men, which is patently absurd given there are fine specimens of both genders.

Reply 8

MostUncivilised

Original post by ArtGoblin

Isn't saying a woman has a 'boy's bum' was an insult?

Just to clarify with some examples, "Bella" has a bum that is, in pertness and shape, similar to the derriere of "Cheeky Thomas". She has a bum that is a bit like a boy's.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/11/article-0-19598D5300000578-871_306x423.jpg
Bella

Cheeky Thomas

Whereas this next lady has a bum that is more typical for her gender

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/11/article-0-19598D7A00000578-965_306x423.jpg

So you see what is meant when it is said a girl has a bum like a 16 year old boy.

Reply 9

ArtGoblin

Original post by MostUncivilised

Not at all, girls at that age tend to have a rather greater proportion of fat, whereas boys bums tend to be better proportioned, pert etc.

I understand what you're saying, I just thought "gross" was a rather visceral word to use about the male anatomy. I think that for a long time there was body shaming of men, where women snigger at men's penises as though there's something odd about them. It was not uncommon for women to say that women had better bodies than men, which is patently absurd given there are fine specimens of both genders.

Hmm... I always thought 'boy's bum' was used to describe women with flat bums. Which is apparently a bad thing but I've never been able to tell what is seen as a flat bum tbh.

I wasn't saying that their bodies were gross, just that seeing a man being sexualised seems 'gross' but it is normal to see women's bodies like that. Because naked male bodies are rarely seen in popular culture and women are less likely to consume pornography, they don't often see them until they're presented with one IRL so it's understandable why they would see them as odd.

Original post by MostUncivilised

Honestly no, they look the same to me.

Reply 10

KingBradly

Anyone who thinks this is misogynistic should be executed for the betterment of the species.

Reply 11

elpistolero7

Tom from Castle needs to shave his arse. That is all.

Reply 12

bertstare

None of those girls have nice asses was the panel who picked the winners blind or did very few people send pictures in

Reply 13

Huskaris

Feminist logic.

Complain about how men's bums look gross and then decry seeing women's bums as sexualisation.

Reply 14

Mankytoes

I love how most "feminist outrage" threads on here aren't started by outraged feminists, but by anti-feminists reporting what outraged feminists are apparantly saying.

Edit- had a quick google and couldn't find any complaints. Also voted for Lizzie, but like a bit more trunk junk than the nominees provided.

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Reply 15

Le Nombre

Original post by ArtGoblin

Are you lesbian? Because that would explain why you don't see men's bodies in a sexual light. If you're straight how do you not see men's bodies as sexual when you see men as sexual?