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I agree it's not a good thing as a career but as a true representation of female sexuality, it's a better option than porn.
Reply 61
Here's the problem I have - half the people on TSR don't like the idea of prostitution, and they don't like the idea of pornography. The obvious TSR extension of this is to demand a ban.

There has to be a recognition that large numbers of people (and let's concentrate on males) aren't getting any sex.

This is a recipe for saying that a certain section of the population who aren't rich enough, good looking enough, lucky enough or are sufficiently lacking in chutzpah that they aren't going to get any.... these people are excluded from any kind of sexual experience, not just actual sex, but viewing it too.

Now it's clear that TSR is a very elitist community, but surely this is a step too far. Seriously? You want a say in who can and can't have sex or even watch it?
Original post by vickidc18
I agree it's not a good thing as a career but as a true representation of female sexuality, it's a better option than porn.



Webcamming is a much better option than porn, agreed.

I personally understand why many girls/women get into that, but I wish there were better ways to make money then having guys lust after them, you know what I mean?
Original post by Clip
Here's the problem I have - half the people on TSR don't like the idea of prostitution, and they don't like the idea of pornography. The obvious TSR extension of this is to demand a ban.

There has to be a recognition that large numbers of people (and let's concentrate on males) aren't getting any sex.

This is a recipe for saying that a certain section of the population who aren't rich enough, good looking enough, lucky enough or are sufficiently lacking in chutzpah that they aren't going to get any.... these people are excluded from any kind of sexual experience, not just actual sex, but viewing it too.

Now it's clear that TSR is a very elitist community, but surely this is a step too far. Seriously? You want a say in who can and can't have sex or even watch it?


I wouldn't really care about porn but it gives men a warped sense of what sex should be and what women enjoy. A lot of men ARE getting sex etc, a majority of men aren't single, virgins by the time they are 25-30.
Reply 64
Check out Tyger Takes on Porn on the iPlayer. Interesting to have the viewpoint of a guy who's parents were both pornstars.
Porn is not what sex is really like lool it makes males who are virgins or even sexual active think they have to be up to that standard of a larger than normal dick and preform stuff they see on their to when they do have sex and it doesn't coincide with what it's really like...


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Reply 66
Original post by vickidc18
I wouldn't really care about porn but it gives men a warped sense of what sex should be and what women enjoy. A lot of men ARE getting sex etc, a majority of men aren't single, virgins by the time they are 25-30.


Well, in a sense, you're not one of those who wants to ban everything.

In terms of warped sense- well from a certain point of view the same thing could be said of so many things. What you're saying is that pornography is a medium that disrupts sex. Well, arguably, media influences marriage or romance far more.

There are some people who think that there is a particular idea of what romance is - that it's about candlelit dinners, poetry or jewelery or whatever - is that any more a construct than pornography-inspired sex?
Original post by vickidc18
Apart from girl on girl porn you almost never see porn for the woman's benefit it's almost always touching her clit for a second, then shoving fingers in roughly then the woman gives rough head, then she gets banged roughly then banged anally followed by ejaculation in her eye.
99.9% of women don't orgasm that way.


99.9% of men don't have the stress or job insecurity that all make porn actors suffer from. They also don't have to inject them dicks with drugs to maintain erections for hours while feeling very little satisfaction.

They also don't get forced into doing gay sex because they get paid far more for doing so.

So what exactly is your point here? That you're biased?
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Original post by Clip
Well, in a sense, you're not one of those who wants to ban everything.

In terms of warped sense- well from a certain point of view the same thing could be said of so many things. What you're saying is that pornography is a medium that disrupts sex. Well, arguably, media influences marriage or romance far more.

There are some people who think that there is a particular idea of what romance is - that it's about candlelit dinners, poetry or jewelery or whatever - is that any more a construct than pornography-inspired sex?


No not candlelight dinners or even romance, I mean more realistic sex, mutually pleasurable sex a womans clitoris is the most pleasurable part of her body it's touched or rubbed for about 30 seconds in a whole porno this is not relistic while giving head, and being banged constantly for the whole porno is apparently "very orgasmic for her and him" I'm not saying these things aren't pleasurable but the whole porno being centered on his orgasm isn't the reality of sex.
Original post by Jordooooom
99.9% of men don't have the stress or job insecurity that all make porn actors suffer from. They also don't have to inject them dicks with drugs to maintain erections for hours while feeling very little satisfaction.

They also don't get forced into doing gay sex because they get paid far more for doing so.

So what exactly is your point here? That you're biased?



Straight male performers and giving performers don't have to put up with frequent tears, prolapses, incontinence & yeast infections a side effect of being banged all day and night.
Reply 70
Original post by vickidc18
No not candlelight dinners or even romance, I mean more realistic sex, mutually pleasurable sex a womans clitoris is the most pleasurable part of her body it's touched or rubbed for about 30 seconds in a whole porno this is not relistic while giving head, and being banged constantly for the whole porno is apparently "very orgasmic for her and him" I'm not saying these things aren't pleasurable but the whole porno being centered on his orgasm isn't the reality of sex.


I'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about how unrealistic romance is.

If romance is unrealistic due to movies, TV and books; is it really so bad that sex can be equally unrealistic?
Original post by Clip
I'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about how unrealistic romance is.

If romance is unrealistic due to movies, TV and books; is it really so bad that sex can be equally unrealistic?


Yeah thats fine, as long as it's a fantasy being a selfish prick in bed won't get you much sex though :smile: & neither will you get the perfect boyfriend waiting for prince charming to come along
Reply 72
Original post by vickidc18
Yeah thats fine, as long as it's a fantasy being a selfish prick in bed won't get you much sex though :smile: & neither will you get the perfect boyfriend waiting for prince charming to come along


Well, there you go. Someone with an open mind. Never thought I'd see that on TSR.
Reply 73
Porn doesn't represent real life sex. When in real life is there ass to mouth which is common in porn?
Reply 74
Original post by Agapelove
Agreed, though I think that webcamming is not the best career choice because of the following reasons:

1. Someone can recognize the webcam model (especially if she shows her face in the webcam) even when the lady is no longer webcamming but rather desires to pursue a career where respect for one's brain verses one's body is essential. For example, if a woman wanted a career in politics, it is really best not to be a webcam 'model', since an opponent would likely drudge up her past to share with everyone. A webcam model or porno 'queen' does not stir up a high level of respect in most voters for the position of being a leader of a community or country.


But surely then the problem is slut shaming or our collective attitudes towards people who get involved in pornography rather than pornography itself?

Original post by Agapelove

2. It contributes to the 'rape culture' where women are seen as sex objects, not as people who deserve respect and love.


But does it though? This would suggest otherwise: http://phys.org/news187448961.html

Original post by Agapelove

3. Young and vulnerable girls could be drawn into this, lying about their age and falling into the lures of the clients for real sex as opposed to simply masturbating to their webcams, especially lures for $ or possessions in exchange for sex. Basically, it can lead to prostitution very easily, as well as underage prostitution, when young girls who want $ see it as a way to make money, even though it's illegal for them and mentally as well as physically harmful.


The involvement of non-consenting parties (including those that cannot consent) is a real problem but the answer lies in effective and well enforced regulation.

Original post by vickidc18
No not candlelight dinners or even romance, I mean more realistic sex, mutually pleasurable sex a womans clitoris is the most pleasurable part of her body it's touched or rubbed for about 30 seconds in a whole porno this is not relistic while giving head, and being banged constantly for the whole porno is apparently "very orgasmic for her and him" I'm not saying these things aren't pleasurable but the whole porno being centered on his orgasm isn't the reality of sex.


Pornography is a very diverse genre, that caters to a variety of tastes, as the percentage of women who use pornography increases (If I remember correctly, it's currently around 30%) then one would expect that there will be an increase in the amount of pornography aimed specifically at women. With regards to the depiction of sex in professional pornography, one might argue that it isn't supposed to be a realistic depiction of sex, given that it is geared towards the enjoyment of a viewer, but rather should be seen as a heavily stylised performance.
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Slightly off topic but OP and a couple of others that have commented you should probably know David Cameron is trying to make porn with rape storylines illegal to possess, I thought it had actually been enforced but it looks like the courts are still debating it if Wikipedia is right. Personally I think it's a stupid law since The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo depicts rape in one scene and that is much more realistic than what porn does, but you should probably know that since it sounds like you still watch porn with rape in it OP.

The Bill in question can be seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Courts_Bill_2013%E2%80%9314
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Original post by Clip
Here's the problem I have - half the people on TSR don't like the idea of prostitution, and they don't like the idea of pornography. The obvious TSR extension of this is to demand a ban.

There has to be a recognition that large numbers of people (and let's concentrate on males) aren't getting any sex.

This is a recipe for saying that a certain section of the population who aren't rich enough, good looking enough, lucky enough or are sufficiently lacking in chutzpah that they aren't going to get any.... these people are excluded from any kind of sexual experience, not just actual sex, but viewing it too.

Now it's clear that TSR is a very elitist community, but surely this is a step too far. Seriously? You want a say in who can and can't have sex or even watch it?


I'd hazard a guess and say most of TSR isn't getting sex either, but since a lot of TSR haven't even passed their A Levels they have a self-righteous viewpoint to things, especially those who have little experience of life outside of school. Also keep in mind the most extreme opinions tend to be the most vocal, if you did a poll on this I would expect most people would be against making porn illegal.
Original post by vickidc18
Straight male performers and giving performers don't have to put up with frequent tears, prolapses, incontinence & yeast infections a side effect of being banged all day and night.


Well I suppose when you're getting paid 5 times as much it's hard to sympathise.
Original post by Jordooooom
Well I suppose when you're getting paid 5 times as much it's hard to sympathise.


I'd rather not have to wear nappies and get paid 10x less.
Reply 79
Original post by justanotherposter
Slightly off topic but OP and a couple of others that have commented you should probably know David Cameron is trying to make porn with rape storylines illegal to possess, I thought it had actually been enforced but it looks like the courts are still debating it if Wikipedia is right. Personally I think it's a stupid law since The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo depicts rape in one scene and that is much more realistic than what porn does, but you should probably know that since it sounds like you still watch porn with rape in it OP.

The Bill in question can be seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Courts_Bill_2013%E2%80%9314

I don't watch porn anymore
How can that be more realistic when in porn they show the actual thing
I've only ever seen one rape porn scene and I was greatly disturbed by it
Even though the female never got raped in real life, it glorifies that particular thing and God forbid young kids see things like this as it's so easily accessible these days

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