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Men, are you fed up of all the disrespect, blaming and hatred of men?

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Reply 40
Original post by somegirlcalledea

Men need rights and to be 'respected' and 'appreciated', but I can see no reason for them to be demanded a higher status than women?

For civilization to flourish, men must be motivated to work as hard as possible. This is done by rewarding hard working, productive men with status, wealth and a family.

(NOTE: men should not automatically be granted status. They should get status from doing what civilization needs them to do, i.e. provide for and protect women and children.)

Women do not need to work hard for civilization to flourish. Women need to make babies. Women are hypergamous, i.e. want to mate with men who are higher status than themselves. When women raise their status they find fewer men acceptable as mates, so the birth rate plummets.

Feminism has resulted in women taking jobs that could be done by men. By raising women's status and by removing some men's ability to provide, it has destroyed the birth rate; disincentivised hard work, risk taking and industriousness from men; and created a dysfunctional dating culture and society.

But as I say, the feminist chickens are coming home to roost. Feminism disincentivising men means women are going to have to take on more and more of the responsibilities and burdens of society, while more and more men drop out to play computer games and watch porn.

The low birth rate means we need to either remove feminism or import immigrants to keep the economy chugging along. Immigrants tend to come from more patriarchal societies and don't care about women's rights. Things cannot keep going in this insane direction.

Have you ever wondered why every successful civilization across the world has been patriarchal? Because Patriarchy is required for a successful civilization. Weaken Patriarchy and you disincentivise men, weakening the civilization until it gets taken over by a more patriarchal society. :colone:
Reply 41
it's feminists who are doing all the active men hating. they have no shame ans spew out nonsense.
Reply 42
Original post by drake10
For civilization to flourish, men must be motivated to work as hard as possible. This is done by rewarding hard working, productive men with status, wealth and a family.

(NOTE: men should not automatically be granted status. They should get status from doing what civilization needs them to do, i.e. provide for and protect women and children.)

Women do not need to work hard for civilization to flourish. Women need to make babies. Women are hypergamous, i.e. want to mate with men who are higher status than themselves. When women raise their status they find fewer men acceptable as mates, so the birth rate plummets.

Feminism has resulted in women taking jobs that could be done by men. By raising women's status and by removing some men's ability to provide, it has destroyed the birth rate; disincentivised hard work, risk taking and industriousness from men; and created a dysfunctional dating culture and society.

But as I say, the feminist chickens are coming home to roost. Feminism disincentivising men means women are going to have to take on more and more of the responsibilities and burdens of society, while more and more men drop out to play computer games and watch porn.

The low birth rate means we need to either remove feminism or import immigrants to keep the economy chugging along. Immigrants tend to come from more patriarchal societies and don't care about women's rights. Things cannot keep going in this insane direction.

Have you ever wondered why every successful civilization across the world has been patriarchal? Because Patriarchy is required for a successful civilization. Weaken Patriarchy and you disincentivise men, weakening the civilization until it gets taken over by a more patriarchal society. :colone:


aaaaand there you have it folks, women need to stop working and start having babies. Well at least we know not to take your opinion seriously :rolleyes:

I am all against man hating but bull**** like this explains why some women do it. I hope you enjoy your bitter and lonely existence.
Original post by zippity.doodah
if women were as physically strong as men, they'd do the exact same things. women are weaker than men and therefore more cowardly in the face of danger. therefore, they don't risk things that men are blamed for. it's not rocket science - we have abilities women don't, therefore we're more likely to engage with danger than women are. but due to men being the strong members of the human race, you women stereotype us as a bunch of brutish mindless oafs (with wallets). if we happen to typically generalise you guys as weak, emotional and with breasts, you know the reason why.


This is why you'll never come to a compromise - you retaliate insults with insults, brutality with brutality, (as some feminists have as well). But you seem to be at the extreme, I certainly don't consider men a bunch of brutish mindless oaths, I think of them as human and don't confine them to stereotypes of gender - you're making sweeping generalisations which echo an embittered individual, have you ever had a healthy relationship with a female figure?.
I feel sorry for you. I genuinely do. If your posts reflect how you think of life and people then you're going to be hard pressed to find happiness.
Original post by can'tbeleftblank
This is why you'll never come to a compromise - you retaliate insults with insults, brutality with brutality, (as some feminists have as well). But you seem to be at the extreme, I certainly don't consider men a bunch of brutish mindless oaths, I think of them as human and don't confine them to stereotypes of gender - you're making sweeping generalisations which echo an embittered individual, have you ever had a healthy relationship with a female figure?.
I feel sorry for you. I genuinely do. If your posts reflect how you think of life and people then you're going to be hard pressed to find happiness.


that's nice, sweat heart
Original post by drake10
For civilization to flourish, men must be motivated to work as hard as possible. This is done by rewarding hard working, productive men with status, wealth and a family.

(NOTE: men should not automatically be granted status. They should get status from doing what civilization needs them to do, i.e. provide for and protect women and children.)

Women do not need to work hard for civilization to flourish. Women need to make babies. Women are hypergamous, i.e. want to mate with men who are higher status than themselves. When women raise their status they find fewer men acceptable as mates, so the birth rate plummets.

Feminism has resulted in women taking jobs that could be done by men. By raising women's status and by removing some men's ability to provide, it has destroyed the birth rate; disincentivised hard work, risk taking and industriousness from men; and created a dysfunctional dating culture and society.

But as I say, the feminist chickens are coming home to roost. Feminism disincentivising men means women are going to have to take on more and more of the responsibilities and burdens of society, while more and more men drop out to play computer games and watch porn.

The low birth rate means we need to either remove feminism or import immigrants to keep the economy chugging along. Immigrants tend to come from more patriarchal societies and don't care about women's rights. Things cannot keep going in this insane direction.

Have you ever wondered why every successful civilization across the world has been patriarchal? Because Patriarchy is required for a successful civilization. Weaken Patriarchy and you disincentivise men, weakening the civilization until it gets taken over by a more patriarchal society. :colone:


Where have I heard of that kind of talk...? Propaganda?...hmm....oh yeah! It's like the preaching of a psychopathic dictator who committed genocide and condemned his country to ruin - that's nazis ideology, and look how well it worked for Germany.
Absolutely terrifying.
Original post by zippity.doodah
that's nice, sweat heart

:smile: it's your life, make what you will of it, but TSR isn't going to sustain you forever.
I've learnt the problems with both sides, is that we generalise on the radical minorities. Women seem to think men condone rape. When I can insure you, if men were left alone with a rapist, he'd never see the light of day again. And men seem to think women are on the rise to power. When from what I've seen, that's not the case. To be fair a lot of men and women don't seem to care about equal rights because they already have them. It's only a few radicals that think there still isn't equality. And then the men who just don't like to be accused of something before they've done it (me included)
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My take on it is. Men and woman aren't equal and probably never will be 100% equal.

1) There are situations where women receive unfavourable treatment and get crapped on
2) There are different situations where men receive unfavourable treatment and get crapped on


There are groups of feminists who give the whole movement a bad name. These people will look for every opportunity to complain about the patriarchy and cry sexism whilst ignoring the inequalities men face. Like elliot rogers, mentally unstable and extremely lonely went on a killing spree (killing more men then women btw), instead of focussing on gun control, the fact that he was unstable etc etc they turn the whole story into a feminist campaign about how men don't have a right over womens bodies despite no one actually saying they do.

There are also some men who have now become over-sensitive and will highlight any inequality facing men and then use it to structure a small essay ranting about feminism and how men have it hard too.



I don't really think there are many people fighting for true gender equality (including me, i couldn't give a damn either way). People only seem interested in furthering the goals of their sex.
Original post by can'tbeleftblank
Where have I heard of that kind of talk...? Propaganda?...hmm....oh yeah! It's like the preaching of a psychopathic dictator who committed genocide and condemned his country to ruin - that's nazis ideology, and look how well it worked for Germany.
Absolutely terrifying.


I was about to say this! 10/10 posting :yy:

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Original post by Jakebarker1605
I've learnt the problems with both sides, is that we generalise on the radical minorities. Women seem to think men condone rape. When I can insure you, if men were left alone with a rapist, he'd never see the light of day again. And men seem to think women are on the rise to power. When from what I've seen, that's not the case. To be fair a lot of men and women don't seem to care about equal rights because they already have them. It's only a few radicals that think there still isn't equality. And then the men who just don't like to be accused of something before they've done it (me included)
This post will go unnoticed, I could almost guarantee it


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I noticed :smile: and I agree...I think the worst problems in society stem from the media's over-sexualising men and women - that's what people are noticing, but it's applicable to both genders.
Original post by Jakebarker1605
I've learnt the problems with both sides, is that we generalise on the radical minorities. Women seem to think men condone rape. When I can insure you, if men were left alone with a rapist, he'd never see the light of day again. And men seem to think women are on the rise to power. When from what I've seen, that's not the case. To be fair a lot of men and women don't seem to care about equal rights because they already have them. It's only a few radicals that think there still isn't equality. And then the men who just don't like to be accused of something before they've done it (me included)
This post will go unnoticed, I could almost guarantee it


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Agreed. Plus its the extremes, for example 'feminists that want women to rule the world' that are holding many of the views that unsettle men and society.

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Original post by somegirlcalledea
I was about to say this! 10/10 posting :yy:

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:biggrin:
On a serious note, I really hope he's a troll (or isolated extremist).
Original post by can'tbeleftblank
I noticed :smile: and I agree...I think the worst problems in society stem from the media's over-sexualising men and women - that's what people are noticing, but it's applicable to both genders.


Exactly! To be fair I don't see any problem with objectification in the media though. A lot of women make a big deal when it's a women, where as men are more chill and like yeah whatever. The only reason men complained about the diet coke adverts was to annoy radical feminists to show them men could also be an influence.


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Original post by somegirlcalledea
Agreed. Plus its the extremes, for example 'feminists that want women to rule the world' that are holding many of the views that unsettle men and society.

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Yes yes yes. I'm not anti feminist, to be fair, i don't see why we need to label them anymore as I don't see how there is a justifiable reason for them to be in existence in the western world. But I hate being told that I condone rape, that I'm scared of female political power etc. as I'm sure you'd be equally as annoyed if I accused you of lying about rape, victim blaming etc. neither groups help themselves, they bring the arguments on to themselves to be fair


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Original post by Jakebarker1605
Exactly! To be fair I don't see any problem with objectification in the media though. A lot of women make a big deal when it's a women, where as men are more chill and like yeah whatever. The only reason men complained about the diet coke adverts was to annoy radical feminists to show them men could also be an influence.


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Yeah, I know, I don't like seeing a woman being all sexualised and feel it just contributes to this idea 'if you're not pretty, you're worthless' :/, visa versa with men (though not pretty :P) but if I doesn't bother men...
i'm so glad I've seen some well balanced male views on here! :redface:, I was beginning to think TSR had really gone down the drain.
Reply 56
Original post by can'tbeleftblank
Where have I heard of that kind of talk...? Propaganda?...hmm....oh yeah! It's like the preaching of a psychopathic dictator who committed genocide and condemned his country to ruin - that's nazis ideology, and look how well it worked for Germany.
Absolutely terrifying.


Original post by somegirlcalledea
I was about to say this! 10/10 posting :yy:


Rather than using Reductio ad Hitlerum, could you both please point out where my logic is flawed? And - if you think I am wrong - can you please explain why every successful civilization has been patriarchal? Why haven't feminist societies been successful in the past? :dontknow:
Reply 57
I don't even...what kind of straw poll is ...
Original post by Jakebarker1605
Yes yes yes. I'm not anti feminist, to be fair, i don't see why we need to label them anymore as I don't see how there is a justifiable reason for them to be in existence in the western world. But I hate being told that I condone rape, that I'm scared of female political power etc. as I'm sure you'd be equally as annoyed if I accused you of lying about rape, victim blaming etc. neither groups help themselves, they bring the arguments on to themselves to be fair


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Of course! Political correctness and everything goes too far most of the time...

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Original post by Rebel_Chick
Didn' know there were any men here.


Careful you don't poke someone's eye out with that sharp wit of yours.