Hundreds of British Leaving to Fight for Islamic Extremists

So good soldiers are those that go to war over self-defence and cases of serious human rights violations (whatever that means) and bad soldiers are those for every other situation?

Nope. That's a huge over-simpliication. Soldiers don't tend to make the decision to go to war, politicians do. The bad soldiers are the ones who go and execute civilians, if you want an example of this turn your TV on and there are some bad soldiers on BBC news right this moment.

So soldiers of governments are brainwashed idiots who are at the beck and call of their leaders which kinda makes it see like the ISIS soldiers have complete freedom to make their own decisions whether to go into battle or not?

I'm betting you would still prefer the former over the latter which is ironic considering you are a freedom loving person...

bad people come from every race/religion not just muslims

That applies to British soldiers as well I assume?

Charlie Cooper, researcher at the anti-extremist think tank, Quilliam Foundation, said: 'People are going from Britain and the EU to fight for ISIS - the estimate is more than 500 and that number will probably rise.

David Cameron's official spokesman acknowledged fears British citizens could be among the ISIS fighters in Iraq, saying: 'Our security services and all the relevant agencies will be monitoring those types of risks very closely.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2656977/Britons-heading-Iraq-join-ISIS-militants-HUNDREDS-amid-fears-bring-terror-UK.html

I think you're a little confused, it's the ISIS soldiers who are running around waging holy war and beheading people in the name of god. They're the brainwashed idiots.

If we're talking in purely legal terms, British soldiers are sanctioned to do what they do by the government, these extremist muslims are not. Furthermore once they are over there they may become radicalised further, and become a threat to us (or other western countries) if/when they return. I'm not seeing any real comparison to make between British soldiers and ISIS.

In what way does that apply to British Soldiers?

Who is brainwashed into war? Soldiers who are like little pigs or sheep or ISIS who are like wild dogs?

Soldiers follow orders without question. These ISIS chaps may have their heads screwed on wrong but they are doing what they want to do. No one is forcing them to fight but soldiers really don't get a say on whether they want to go to war or not.

That's really sad and here you are, defending these "brainwashed idiots"...

Who is brainwashed into war? Soldiers who are like little pigs or sheep or ISIS who are like wild dogs?

Soldiers follow orders without question. These ISIS chaps may have their heads screwed on wrong but they are doing what they want to do. No one is forcing them to fight but soldiers really don't get a say on whether they want to go to war or not.

That's really sad and here you are, defending these "brainwashed idiots"...

British soldiers are fighting for something real, a pay check. ISIS soldiers think they're fighting some divine crusade. It's clear who they brainwashed ones are.

isis like all islamists are just "brainwashed little pigs and sheep " as you put it too.

they are being indoctrinated by shiekhs and amirs sitting round the sunni world telling them to kill westerners, kaffirs, shias etc. an employed national soldier can quit his job whenever he likes. an islamists that walks out gets a death warrant put over his head from all his previous 'brothers'

DaveSmith99 is implying that soldiers (in the context of the UK soldiers specifically) are "brainwashed pigs and sheep"...



I genuinely have no idea what you have written. Please make your "reasoned arguments" or opinions more coherent...

your post reads that its professional soldiers that are "brainwashed pigs and sheep" when in fact it is islamists like isis and others that are so. shiekhs and amirs rely on ignorance of their followers and skillfully worded propaganda and islamic slogans. the advantage they have is that islam has a long history of inciting ignorant people to meaningless wars.

On the other hand, a person who believes himself to be right will never deviate away and that is why they make the better soldiers, regardless of the superior training of the Western forces. You can kill one, two, three of these "fanatics" but when they just keep coming, wave after wave after wave and using all means at their disposal, eventually you would just pack it in.

Then they are selling their morality for money and therefore, are the brainwashed ones because they believe money is the ultimate aim. They are nothing more than mercenaries who are willing to whore themselves out to the highest bidders and that, is something that you should find abhorrent and dangerous.

On the other hand, a person who believes himself to be right will never deviate away and that is why they make the better soldiers, regardless of the superior training of the Western forces. You can kill one, two, three of these "fanatics" but when they just keep coming, wave after wave after wave and using all means at their disposal, eventually you would just pack it in.

DaveSmith99 is implying that soldiers (in the context of the UK soldiers specifically) are "brainwashed pigs and sheep"...



I genuinely have no idea what you have written. Please make your "reasoned arguments" or opinions more coherent...