Thomas Muller is the most intellegent forward in world football
As said in the title. Discuss.
I've never seen a player with so little ability on the ball get so many goals and start for a world class side. I thought Inzaghi was bad but this guy is something else.
His work rate, his determination, his positioning, his off the ball movement is just out of this world. I remember the CL final e.g. how he decided to head the ball downwards because he thought Cech wouldn't be able to handle the bounce when he could have just hit it straight at Cech who would have saved it then. Guy is an enigma.
I've never seen a player with so little ability on the ball get so many goals and start for a world class side. I thought Inzaghi was bad but this guy is something else.
His work rate, his determination, his positioning, his off the ball movement is just out of this world. I remember the CL final e.g. how he decided to head the ball downwards because he thought Cech wouldn't be able to handle the bounce when he could have just hit it straight at Cech who would have saved it then. Guy is an enigma.
(edited 9 years ago)
Scroll to see replies
Original post by Yawn-er
Strange player...
If he wasn't playing for Bayern Munich, would he be considered as good?
If he wasn't playing for Bayern Munich, would he be considered as good?
Imo he is a system player. I.e. He is amazing if you use him in the right system but probably useless otherwise.
Original post by Zürich
What's there to discuss? Everybody can see that.
Just having an argument with my mates on whatsapp over this because I said he's more intelligent than Messi.
They're confusing technical ability with football intelligence.
Inb4 Ronaldo mentioned as most intelligent player.
Original post by C.Almasy
Imo he is a system player. I.e. He is amazing if you use him in the right system but probably useless otherwise.
The thing is he still did well in Peps defensive possession/counter attack hybrid.
I don't think he's a system player, you don't get away with that playing for Pep Guardiola teams because he will not alter a whole system because of a player.
You'd think that he'd only suit counter attacking teams because of his work rate. Only time i've seen Muller be shocking was when he played CM under Guardiola in the 4-5-1, but then he's not a CM.
(edited 9 years ago)
Dunno about that, Juan Mata has a degree
ba dum tss
ba dum tss
Original post by jam278
Just having an argument with my mates on whatsapp over this because I said he's more intelligent than Messi.
They're confusing technical ability with football intelligence.
Inb4 Ronaldo mentioned as most intelligent player.
The thing is he still did well in Peps defensive possession/counter attack hybrid.
I don't think he's a system player, you don't get away with that playing for Pep Guardiola teams because he will not alter a whole system because of a player.
You'd think that he'd only suit counter attacking teams because of his work rate. Only time i've seen Muller be shocking was when he played CM under Guardiola in the 4-5-1, but then he's not a CM.
They're confusing technical ability with football intelligence.
Inb4 Ronaldo mentioned as most intelligent player.
The thing is he still did well in Peps defensive possession/counter attack hybrid.
I don't think he's a system player, you don't get away with that playing for Pep Guardiola teams because he will not alter a whole system because of a player.
You'd think that he'd only suit counter attacking teams because of his work rate. Only time i've seen Muller be shocking was when he played CM under Guardiola in the 4-5-1, but then he's not a CM.
Well his instinct is truly a phenomenon, you dont need to be technically gifted to bundle the ball in so long as you get into those positions and invariably he does. Seen him play live twice and his off the ball movement is just fantastic
Probably his lack of technical ability helps him in a way since he knows he's only going to be effective in the box and focuses on that fully. Its a different kind of intelligence to Messi really, more cunning and calculated. Id say Mueller is the more intelligent yeah.
Mueller is so so German though, plays like someone from their 1974 team or something
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by Zürich
Well his instinct is truly a phenomenon, you dont need to be technically gifted to bundle the ball in so long as you get into those positions and invariably he does. Seen him play live twice and his off the ball movement is just fantastic
Probably his lack of technical ability helps him in a way since he knows he's only going to be effective in the box and focuses on that fully. Its a different kind of intelligence to Messi really, more cunning and calculated. Id say Mueller is the more intelligent yeah.
Mueller is so so German though, plays like someone from their 1974 team or something
Probably his lack of technical ability helps him in a way since he knows he's only going to be effective in the box and focuses on that fully. Its a different kind of intelligence to Messi really, more cunning and calculated. Id say Mueller is the more intelligent yeah.
Mueller is so so German though, plays like someone from their 1974 team or something
He also looks like such the typical Bayern smug ****. Just has a very punchable face.
Original post by C.Almasy
He also looks like such the typical Bayern smug ****. Just has a very punchable face.
nah, he's the kind of Bavarian I like. Arrogant yes, but with a very dry sense of humour
Original post by manchesterunited15
Dunno about that, Juan Mata has a degree
ba dum tss
ba dum tss
Iain Dowie has a Masters in Engineering. STEM master race.
Original post by Drewski
Iain Dowie has a Masters in Engineering. STEM master race.
Who'da thought it
Original post by manchesterunited15
Who'da thought it
As an engineer myself, I can confirm that that is exactly what all engineering students look like...
...the female ones, anyway.
Lol British people are weird.
In Germany no one comments on Müller's supposed lack of (technical) ability. And you are the only country to blame him for Pepe's red card.
In Germany no one comments on Müller's supposed lack of (technical) ability. And you are the only country to blame him for Pepe's red card.
Original post by Yawn-er
Strange player...
If he wasn't playing for Bayern Munich, would he be considered as good?
If he wasn't playing for Bayern Munich, would he be considered as good?
If he wasn't scoring 8 goals in 7 games would he be considered as good?
Original post by SarcasticMel
Lol British people are weird.
In Germany no one comments on Müller's supposed lack of (technical) ability. And you are the only country to blame him for Pepe's red card.
In Germany no one comments on Müller's supposed lack of (technical) ability. And you are the only country to blame him for Pepe's red card.
I am English and I have loved him since 2009. He has great ability and a passion for football that is lacked by the likes of Ronaldo
Original post by SarcasticMel
Lol British people are weird.
In Germany no one comments on Müller's supposed lack of (technical) ability. And you are the only country to blame him for Pepe's red card.
In Germany no one comments on Müller's supposed lack of (technical) ability. And you are the only country to blame him for Pepe's red card.
Auch bekommt er alle die beste Muschi
Original post by llys
Plus he loves his granny. 
Explain?
Original post by C.Almasy
Explain?
At the last WC he gave an interview on TV. When the interview was basically finished and the interviewer was almost starting to move on he interrupted him (politely) saying that he would like to greet his granny if that was allowed and proceeded to do so in a very nice manner. Grannies of the nation must love him, I think.
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by TheAnusFiles
If he wasn't scoring 8 goals in 7 games would he be considered as good?
It helps that he's surrounded by BM players no?
Quick Reply
Related discussions
- Durham English Exchange
- Is Bukayo Saka the face of the Premier League?
- FIFA Women's World Cup 2023
- Loreto application
- An Offer-Holder's Guide to Applying for English at Oxbridge
- Book recommendations
- Is Messi now the undisputed greatest of all time?
- msc artificial intellegence UWE bristol course reviews
- Zidane vs. Maradonna
- Kallisto's Monday Question: Events
- loreto application
- Where will the UK end up in Eurovision 2023?
- Corner yoghurts: how do you eat yours?
- Who is the best ALL ROUND footballer at the moment?
- What are some tips for reducing test anxiety?
- What games are you looking forward to playing after your exams are finished?
- Is King's College really good?
- Official Sheffield Hallam University freshers 2023 chat
- Changing Oxford college
- Is there a muay thai community at Swansea university
Latest
Last reply 4 minutes ago
which unis will accept BBB for economicsLast reply 5 minutes ago
HSBC Degree Apprenticeship 2024Last reply 5 minutes ago
Inlaks, Commonwealth, and Other Scholarships for Indian Students 2024: ThreadLast reply 6 minutes ago
LSE International Social and Public Policy and Economics (LLK1) 2024 ThreadLast reply 6 minutes ago
Official: University of Bristol A100 2024 Entry ApplicantsLast reply 6 minutes ago
shouldn't more and more young people be candidates in local elections now? becauseLast reply 6 minutes ago
Bank of America Degree Apprenticeship 2024Last reply 7 minutes ago
Official London School of Economics and Political Science 2024 Applicant ThreadLast reply 7 minutes ago
Official University of Edinburgh Applicant Thread for 2024Last reply 7 minutes ago
Official: University of Aberdeen A100 2024 Entry ApplicantsLast reply 8 minutes ago
Even Europe’s far-right firebrands seem to sense Brexit is a disaster- The GuardianLast reply 10 minutes ago
TSR Study Together - STEM vs Humanities - Tenth SessionLast reply 12 minutes ago
AQA GCSE Physics Paper 1 (Higher Tier triple) 8463/1H - 22nd May 2024 [Exam Chat]Last reply 12 minutes ago
The Official Funding questions/moans/possible joy Thread
