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Uni or not - I'm really torn

Please bear with me, I'll try to cut a long story short:

I've always been a really academic person, working hard at school... a lot of the time in sacrifice of my social life. Meanwhile, I've always been really close to home and to my family to the extent where I have been 'babied' too much; home is like my security blanket. I didn't have the easiest time at school for parts of my time there: teasing about me being hardworking, everyone considering me 'nice' but not friendship material (although within the past couple of years I've started to make genuine friends), and as a result I have low self-confidence and almost no self-esteem. Meanwhile, I've just acheived all As at A-Level, meeting my 3A offer to study at uni.

However, I've never wanted to study the subject I've applied for - the fact I've been ill with depression this past year hasn't helped - and now I'm at a crossroads... I've contacted my uni to see if I can transfer to the course I think I prefer to do (not immediately related degree-wise, but same 3A offer!), but I'm waiting for a response from them.

Despite this, I'm at a real crossroads: if my transfer is successful, I face the possibility of starting uni this year (although I can turn around and say no to their offer this year), and if not it'll be a gap year. The prospect of going to uni this year terrifies me: I don't feel ready to leave home, nor do I feel I have the energy to basically start from scratch and make new friends, and act confident when deep down I'm an absolutely nervous wreck (and although this is a more minor factor I'm not a big drinker so those sort of nights out are really daunting), plus I've always worked so hard I feel like I don't know who I am other than some grades on a piece of paper. On the other hand, an as yet unplanned gap year seems like an equally lonely road: even though I'd probably work and go on an expedition or two and come across other people that way, I'm afraid it'll be easier said than done: I'm not consistently mixing with others my age, plus I'll still be at home - although I've worked it out with my parents that they won't be so babying towards me.

I feel like it's a case of one extreme or the other, and don't know where to go from here. Can anyone advise? Also, can anyone point me in the direction of any specialist helplines that deal with advising people on uni options?

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Reply 1
well, i'd strongly advise taking a gap year. it sounds like you're not at all ready for university yet. however, you must get used to not being at home, because it's not going to be there forever. i'd advise maybe going abroad on some kind of volunteering programme with other people your age to make friends and have a good time to improve your confidence. just make the most of your gap and your whole perception on life will change. you might even change your course if you feel differently.
Reply 2
It is rare that I am direct as I am about to be, but reading the post, its clear that this is a little more than the standard pre uni nerves. I can idenify to some extent with what you say about work coming above a social life - I still get sarcastic remarks from friends about it being new year when they see me!!:smile:

In a way you have done the hard work, you have the A's. Now I think you need to address two things...

1. Getting the right course

This is soo important, probably more so than it appears now. Its so important to actually want to study the course you take at uni. This, I think drives everything and keeps you going when times are hard. You sound like a very determined person which will see you so far, but three years is an awful long time doing something you don't like. This is especially the case when you could be applying all those brains you have to something you want to do!:smile:

2. Being in the frame of mind to make the most of things

The honesty you show is refreshing - and I think we all think sometimes that we need to grow up a bit! On a personal level, its quite clear that for me to be able to perform at my best I have to be happy and secure. Sure, we all need to take a leap of faith every now and then but it seems that with the way you feel and the depression there are one or two things to work through for you at the present time. As I say, in a way you have done the hard work for now..and far better to wait a year when you can capitalise on this than to rush it. Uni will always be there for when the time is right, and I think you will know when that is. It's natural to have a few nerves as I say, but this I think is different from that.

I would also try and broach the subject with those close to you. If you can try and explain to them how you feel, I am sure they will be understanding and supportive. Its really important that you do whats best for you, and not to do things to please other people.

I hope this might be some help, and lots of luck to you:smile:
Reply 3
cielo
well, i'd strongly advise taking a gap year. it sounds like you're not at all ready for university yet. however, you must get used to not being at home, because it's not going to be there forever. i'd advise maybe going abroad on some kind of volunteering programme with other people your age to make friends and have a good time to improve your confidence. just make the most of your gap and your whole perception on life will change. you might even change your course if you feel differently.


Cielo - I know home isn't going to be forever, and that's my main concern about a gap year. Although it might give me time to 'wean myself off' of home, so to speak; my parents fully support me with whatever decision I make, and if I do a gap year they have vowed to treat me as an independent person, i.e. I fend for myself! it's just the feeling of being a baby whilst most people my age are off and away, I don't know.

chriswhit
It is rare that I am direct as I am about to be, but reading the post, its clear that this is a little more than the standard pre uni nerves. I can idenify to some extent with what you say about work coming above a social life - I still get sarcastic remarks from friends about it being new year when they see me!!

In a way you have done the hard work, you have the A's. Now I think you need to address two things...

1. Getting the right course

This is soo important, probably more so than it appears now. Its so important to actually want to study the course you take at uni. This, I think drives everything and keeps you going when times are hard. You sound like a very determined person which will see you so far, but three years is an awful long time doing something you don't like. This is especially the case when you could be applying all those brains you have to something you want to do!

2. Being in the frame of mind to make the most of things

The honesty you show is refreshing - and I think we all think sometimes that we need to grow up a bit! On a personal level, its quite clear that for me to be able to perform at my best I have to be happy and secure. Sure, we all need to take a leap of faith every now and then but it seems that with the way you feel and the depression there are one or two things to work through for you at the present time. As I say, in a way you have done the hard work for now..and far better to wait a year when you can capitalise on this than to rush it. Uni will always be there for when the time is right, and I think you will know when that is. It's natural to have a few nerves as I say, but this I think is different from that.

I would also try and broach the subject with those close to you. If you can try and explain to them how you feel, I am sure they will be understanding and supportive. Its really important that you do whats best for you, and not to do things to please other people.

I hope this might be some help, and lots of luck to you


chriswhit - I know what you mean: I'm concerned as to whether I'm just experiencing 'standard pre-uni nerves' and am just being a coward. But mentally, I guess I've yet to mentally prepare myself for moving away from home and being in a uni environment, not exactly helped by never picturing myself doing the course I applied for. However, I definitely have decided not to do this course, and the one I'm trying to change to I'm pretty sure is more me, I'm comfortable with the prospect of studying it, for one thing!

It's just, how do you know you're ready for uni? I don't know whether to push myself and adapt to the environment this year, or defer it til next year whilst in theory at least I try to have some breathing space, but on a much more lonely road it seems. Both options are daunting for me, and I'm so confused at the moment to the point I'm feeling ill, which sounds so stupid to admit!

Thanks for your replies...
Reply 4
I would suggest maybe waiting for another year before uni - if you're panicking this much now then maybe you aren't ready. Take some time out to reconsider what you'd like to study. Take your time and remember there's no rush :smile:

Secondly, if you have a gap year, work for a few months while you consider reapplying to uni. Then maybe find an organised trip/expedition/trek for people 18-21 years old to somewhere you might like to visit, doing something you'd like to do (maybe the more random the better?!). If there's one thing that helps build confidence, it's travelling somewhere new and exciting, and meeting lots of new people along the way will only help boost your self esteem. Travelling like that is good - if you feel like you need some alone time, then you're on your own so you're free to wander off for a bit and have some quality 'you' time. But then there's always different people to talk to and get to know a little if you feel you want a chat. It'll also help you adjust to life away from home, which again might boost your confidence - maybe some of your nerves are down to leaving your family, especially if you're close with them, which is no bad thing :smile:

Finally, remember any decision you make should be YOUR decision. By all means take advice, but don't let people sway you to do one thing when you don't feel it's right deep down. Take your time and don't antagonise over it too much, otherwise you'll get more worked up. You're still young so you've plenty of time to decide what you want to do!
Reply 5
well, when you're on a gap scheme you'll be with loadsa different people and you'll feel like you're in a community if you do the right thing. i wouldn't even apply to uni this year. wait till next year and by then things could have changed a lot! :smile:
Reply 6
I don't think many people are truely ready to leave home when they go to uni and the way you feel sounds quite natural. Don't go to Uni this year if you can't get on the course you want to study. I really wish I'd taken a gap year, the first year of uni just flew by too fast, and its not really too late for you to start planning a gap year. You'll have no trouble getting into Uni next year with those excellent grades but you knew that. If you really feel like you don't know yourself then definately take a gap year. You could go on some kind of trip like with Raleigh or something - it will be an introduction to living away from home and meeting new people. hope things work out
Reply 7
i know im the only 1 2 say this so far but i think itd b best for u to go 2 uni. i mean if where ur going has catered halls its a pretty safe environment and mayb throwing yourself in the deep end is what you need. i think the danger is that if you take a gap year you will feel exactly the same anxiety next year and 1. wont have prepared yourself any better, 2. possibly wasted a year of you precious life.
Reply 8
Chicken
I would suggest maybe waiting for another year before uni - if you're panicking this much now then maybe you aren't ready. Take some time out to reconsider what you'd like to study. Take your time and remember there's no rush :smile:

Secondly, if you have a gap year, work for a few months while you consider reapplying to uni. Then maybe find an organised trip/expedition/trek for people 18-21 years old to somewhere you might like to visit, doing something you'd like to do (maybe the more random the better?!). If there's one thing that helps build confidence, it's travelling somewhere new and exciting, and meeting lots of new people along the way will only help boost your self esteem. Travelling like that is good - if you feel like you need some alone time, then you're on your own so you're free to wander off for a bit and have some quality 'you' time. But then there's always different people to talk to and get to know a little if you feel you want a chat. It'll also help you adjust to life away from home, which again might boost your confidence - maybe some of your nerves are down to leaving your family, especially if you're close with them, which is no bad thing :smile:

Finally, remember any decision you make should be YOUR decision. By all means take advice, but don't let people sway you to do one thing when you don't feel it's right deep down. Take your time and don't antagonise over it too much, otherwise you'll get more worked up. You're still young so you've plenty of time to decide what you want to do!


Chicken - thanks for your reply. My very problem is antagonising over it too much! I know I want to go to uni, but emotionally I don't know what I want... on paper, a gap year sounds the most sensible option, but in reality I don't know if I could actually go through with it: expeditions are so removed from what I'm used to. Do you think it's the best option for boosting my self-esteem?

Sorry if I sound all negative and contradictory at the moment: I'm exhausted form thinking over and over about all of this!
Reply 9
Anonymous
Please bear with me, I'll try to cut a long story short:

I've always been a really academic person, working hard at school... a lot of the time in sacrifice of my social life. Meanwhile, I've always been really close to home and to my family to the extent where I have been 'babied' too much; home is like my security blanket. I didn't have the easiest time at school for parts of my time there: teasing about me being hardworking, everyone considering me 'nice' but not friendship material (although within the past couple of years I've started to make genuine friends), and as a result I have low self-confidence and almost no self-esteem. Meanwhile, I've just acheived all As at A-Level, meeting my 3A offer to study at uni.

However, I've never wanted to study the subject I've applied for - the fact I've been ill with depression this past year hasn't helped - and now I'm at a crossroads... I've contacted my uni to see if I can transfer to the course I think I prefer to do (not immediately related degree-wise, but same 3A offer!), but I'm waiting for a response from them.

Despite this, I'm at a real crossroads: if my transfer is successful, I face the possibility of starting uni this year (although I can turn around and say no to their offer this year), and if not it'll be a gap year. The prospect of going to uni this year terrifies me: I don't feel ready to leave home, nor do I feel I have the energy to basically start from scratch and make new friends, and act confident when deep down I'm an absolutely nervous wreck (and although this is a more minor factor I'm not a big drinker so those sort of nights out are really daunting), plus I've always worked so hard I feel like I don't know who I am other than some grades on a piece of paper. On the other hand, an as yet unplanned gap year seems like an equally lonely road: even though I'd probably work and go on an expedition or two and come across other people that way, I'm afraid it'll be easier said than done: I'm not consistently mixing with others my age, plus I'll still be at home - although I've worked it out with my parents that they won't be so babying towards me.

I feel like it's a case of one extreme or the other, and don't know where to go from here. Can anyone advise? Also, can anyone point me in the direction of any specialist helplines that deal with advising people on uni options?

I can understand how you feel about leaving home after an illness - I had chronic fatigue syndrome in years 11 and 12, and it made me quite dependant on my family, and less grown up than my friends as I couldn't get a part-time job or go out as much. Having to make a completely new set of friends at uni, and look after yourself, is quite scary. However, most unis offer a lot of support for their students.

If you decide to take a gap year no-one will think any worse of you - lots of people do it and you deserve a break from all that school. But definitely make sure you'll have plenty to do. It sounds like you worked pretty single-mindedly through school, and now A levels have finished you could end up feeling pretty directionless if you don't have any concrete plans (I know I feel directionless, and that's only from this summer, as I know I'm going to uni in october!). I think you could definitely become more grownup and confident in a gap year, by going on an expedition or maybe getting a job. Both of these would allow you to make new friends, and allow you to learn who you are outside of an academic context.

On the other hand, uni's not a totally bad idea. If you get an offer for the course you want to do, and approach uni in a positive mindset, then I think you could have a great time. And in a way, university is quite a structured environment which might be easier than a gap year that you have to plan from scratch. Its an ideal way to meet new people, and not all of them will be crazy drinkers.

I reckon you should think about your health - the last thing you want to do is make yourself ill again from too much stress. Don't worry about your decision too much, you can have a great year whichever option you choose.

Oh dear this post is getting kind of rambling. :redface: PM me if you want to chat about any of this.
x
If you don't know what you want to do then you should take a gap year £3000 is a lot of money to spend studying a course that you don't enjoy, uni will still be there when you get back and if you go travelling then you are not sitting at home being bored. You will learn what suits you then and you can apply for a course that you will enjoy and be fairly confident of getting in. Going to uni if you really don't want to, will get you nowhere and then you'll be in the same position as you are now but £3000 poorer.
I agree with what everyone's said. A gap year sounds essential to your self-discovery, largely because of this...

Anonymous
I've always worked so hard I feel like I don't know who I am other than some grades on a piece of paper


A lot can happen in a year, especially at a young age, and an active gap year will probably make things so much clearer for you. Don't worry about being lonely; as has been said, go with people like Project Trust - they can get you teaching with other young people abroad. I've found, in this past year, myself waking up with my outlook just adjusted by a tiny fraction, and it's made me much happier about my life and my future.

Anonymous
and although this is a more minor factor I'm not a big drinker so those sort of nights out are really daunting


Sounds like you've been duped by the media culture! :smile: It thinks it knows youth, but it doesn't. Don't worry, I think you can be yourself at university. If you don't want to go out painting the town, don't go - you'll find people who share your outlook. Join some societies, follow your interests, and make friends that way. I certainly don't want to go out drinking, but I'm not daunted, because I know there are other things on my plate.

Take the year out. Have fun, learn some more about yourself, and don't worry - it's never worth it. :wink:
Reply 12
Vulcan - that sounds great, but I'm afraid it won't live up to that in reality! I defintiely want to go to uni by next year - it's either entry for 2007, or this September.

sahsum - thanks :smile: If I can't get on the course this year, I've pretty much decided to take a gap year and reapply... it's if I get offered the course for this year that my dilemma starts. It's just if what I'm feeling is natural, I don't know whether to just bite the bullet or not!

squigaletta - I'm glad you see the other side of things, don't worry about bieng the 'only' one to think it best I go to uni out of all of those who have posted! That's the problem - I don't want to waste a year, and just be 'putting off the inevitable', so to speak. Argh, I'm so confused!
Reply 13
hermajesty
I can understand how you feel about leaving home after an illness - I had chronic fatigue syndrome in years 11 and 12, and it made me quite dependant on my family, and less grown up than my friends as I couldn't get a part-time job or go out as much. Having to make a completely new set of friends at uni, and look after yourself, is quite scary. However, most unis offer a lot of support for their students.

If you decide to take a gap year no-one will think any worse of you - lots of people do it and you deserve a break from all that school. But definitely make sure you'll have plenty to do. It sounds like you worked pretty single-mindedly through school, and now A levels have finished you could end up feeling pretty directionless if you don't have any concrete plans (I know I feel directionless, and that's only from this summer, as I know I'm going to uni in october!). I think you could definitely become more grownup and confident in a gap year, by going on an expedition or maybe getting a job. Both of these would allow you to make new friends, and allow you to learn who you are outside of an academic context.

On the other hand, uni's not a totally bad idea. If you get an offer for the course you want to do, and approach uni in a positive mindset, then I think you could have a great time. And in a way, university is quite a structured environment which might be easier than a gap year that you have to plan from scratch. Its an ideal way to meet new people, and not all of them will be crazy drinkers.

I reckon you should think about your health - the last thing you want to do is make yourself ill again from too much stress. Don't worry about your decision too much, you can have a great year whichever option you choose.

Oh dear this post is getting kind of rambling. :redface: PM me if you want to chat about any of this.
x



Thanks for your reply - I'm sorry to hear about your illness. You've hit the nail on the head, I think: a big fear of mine is feeling directionless, espically after my school work provides me with direction! I've worked so SO hard to aim for good grades in my A-Levels, that now I've been lucky enough to acheive that I've not necessarily considered what for, and what comes next. I just no longer now what is best for me - I can see myself plumping for a gap year and then wishing I was at uni, but then again also the other way around! Loneliness is my biggest fear.

turbochargedk - thanks. Money is an important factor in my decision - I don't want it to go to waste!

Antony Arundel
I agree with what everyone's said. A gap year sounds essential to your self-discovery, largely because of this...

A lot can happen in a year, especially at a young age, and an active gap year will probably make things so much clearer for you. Don't worry about being lonely; as has been said, go with people like Project Trust - they can get you teaching with other young people abroad. I've found, in this past year, myself waking up with my outlook just adjusted by a tiny fraction, and it's made me much happier about my life and my future.

Sounds like you've been duped by the media culture! It thinks it knows youth, but it doesn't. Don't worry, I think you can be yourself at university. If you don't want to go out painting the town, don't go - you'll find people who share your outlook. Join some societies, follow your interests, and make friends that way. I certainly don't want to go out drinking, but I'm not daunted, because I know there are other things on my plate.

Take the year out. Have fun, learn some more about yourself, and don't worry - it's never worth it.


Thanks for your reply too... unless I've read incorrectly, I take it you've taken a gap year? If so, how did you come to your decision?

Oh, I know not everyone drinks - it's me being panicky - although I think it's a significant part of any fresher's week to say the least!

In a larger sense (and this is a general question!), how do you decide or know if you're ready for uni?
Reply 14
I dont think its as easy as being ready for uni..you go when the year starts with all the stuff you can fit into a new home, and plenty of nervy excitement. I think part of it is media driven - uni seems like this totally different planet but you will be surprised how normal it seems after a while. In the short term, some time *not* thinking about this might be in order as it sounds like you are a bit stressed and won't be thinking at ur most rational if so. Watch a film or read a book or something to escape and come back to it when you are refreshed in a couple of days, you have lots of time..certainly enough time to do this even if you do decide to go this year.
Reply 15
squigaletta
i know im the only 1 2 say this so far but i think itd b best for u to go 2 uni. i mean if where ur going has catered halls its a pretty safe environment and mayb throwing yourself in the deep end is what you need. i think the danger is that if you take a gap year you will feel exactly the same anxiety next year and 1. wont have prepared yourself any better, 2. possibly wasted a year of you precious life.

i agree.
Anonymous
Please bear with me, I'll try to cut a long story short:

I've always been a really academic person, working hard at school... a lot of the time in sacrifice of my social life. Meanwhile, I've always been really close to home and to my family to the extent where I have been 'babied' too much; home is like my security blanket. I didn't have the easiest time at school for parts of my time there: teasing about me being hardworking, everyone considering me 'nice' but not friendship material (although within the past couple of years I've started to make genuine friends), and as a result I have low self-confidence and almost no self-esteem. Meanwhile, I've just acheived all As at A-Level, meeting my 3A offer to study at uni.

However, I've never wanted to study the subject I've applied for - the fact I've been ill with depression this past year hasn't helped - and now I'm at a crossroads... I've contacted my uni to see if I can transfer to the course I think I prefer to do (not immediately related degree-wise, but same 3A offer!), but I'm waiting for a response from them.

Despite this, I'm at a real crossroads: if my transfer is successful, I face the possibility of starting uni this year (although I can turn around and say no to their offer this year), and if not it'll be a gap year. The prospect of going to uni this year terrifies me: I don't feel ready to leave home, nor do I feel I have the energy to basically start from scratch and make new friends, and act confident when deep down I'm an absolutely nervous wreck (and although this is a more minor factor I'm not a big drinker so those sort of nights out are really daunting), plus I've always worked so hard I feel like I don't know who I am other than some grades on a piece of paper. On the other hand, an as yet unplanned gap year seems like an equally lonely road: even though I'd probably work and go on an expedition or two and come across other people that way, I'm afraid it'll be easier said than done: I'm not consistently mixing with others my age, plus I'll still be at home - although I've worked it out with my parents that they won't be so babying towards me.

I feel like it's a case of one extreme or the other, and don't know where to go from here. Can anyone advise? Also, can anyone point me in the direction of any specialist helplines that deal with advising people on uni options?

cant you go to a uni near your parents home?
Reply 17
mate if u read this post, understand your soo not alone. i personally didnt go to uni first time round, and also missed second time around too! i simply wasnt ready to leave home, i understand where your coming from.
i stayed in college for 2years and i am finally on my way this year to uni on a course i really want to do. im 21, altho it seems im too old lol i dont feel it.

so maybe a gap is a good idea for you, like sum1 suggested, an organised community work thing abroad might be perfect for you. it will help u to learn how to socialise easier and get used to being more independant. sounds like thats wot u need more than anythin.
and as for goin out drinkin, i have loads of mates who dont drink at all an jus go out for the laff.

good luck with everythin mate, as far as making friends goes, just be yourself. if other people dont like you then dont waste time on em.
I don't think you should go to university this year. Remember, where a gap year is 1 year of something different, university is a 3 years (or more), and a big commitment. I really think a gap year will give you the time - and a change in lifestyle that university won't necessarily give you, esp. if you're in a catered hall and close to home - to refresh your outlook on life and give you some confidence.

Also, it doesn't sound like you truly know what you want to study, so don't commit yourself at this stage. Go and do something different - it doesn't even have to be in the far reaches of the world.

Also, I don't necessarily think going to a university close to home is a good option either. You do want to make that break, but, crucially, you want to be able to handle that break when it comes. As far as being ready is concerned, you may never feel quite ready, but that's different to how well you handle the whole thing when it finally comes. It sounds like you'll handle it worse now than maybe after a year of, to sound naff, finding yourself. :smile:

My year out was kind of forced on me. I just fell short of my first choice, so wanted to re-apply, rather than go to my second choice and carry that regret with me. So that meant a year out. Even at this stage, I'm considering another one in the Far East. There's no harm in 2 years!

What I can tell you about it is that I feel much more ready this year. I'm still wracked by nerves and various little worries, but the point is that I know I'll handle it when it comes. I felt more like you last year. :smile:
Reply 19
Hi Anonymous - I went to Uni (left now) and while people say "the world is your oyster", I began to ask "where's the pearl?"

I didn't believe that the wine women & song & career would satisfy me. Travelling is interesting first time you go somewhere new but it's not "the answer".

Some students were really into politics / change the world . . .worthwhile things in some cases but again that wouldn't satisfy me emotionally / spiritually.

The thing that filled the gap for me was after I met people who thought like me who had also received what God has to offer, His Spirit. I'm now in his family and have a new life/relationship to live. I won't go on in public, PM me if you want more detail.

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