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Poll: Are these things acceptable in Halls?

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Which of the following statements do you agree with?

So I've seen a lot of threads recently complaining about the attitudes of students in halls, or in other living arrangements, and I wanted to see what the general feeling is on TSR about what is and isn't acceptable when you live with other people.

This is referring mainly to living in halls, and I want you to answer based on what you personally think is acceptable, not just what was the reality when you attended halls. If it would change your answer at all, assume that for "partying/making noise" there are no more than half the people you live with (in a corridor/flat) involved in the noisy event.

Feel free to state your reasons, especially if you've failed to live up to you own standards (at either extreme)!

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Headphones would take care of the loud music problem. I wouldn't mind if someone took my food and replaced it, although some people can be really picky so I would probably ask before taking.
Well I go to bed at 10 even at weekends, so none of the above.
Reply 3
Original post by Dilzo999
Headphones would take care of the loud music problem. I wouldn't mind if someone took my food and replaced it, although some people can be really picky so I would probably ask before taking.


Yeah, I bought headphones for this year because I have no idea how audible my music elsewhere, but I don't have it that loud anyway.
Would you mind if it happened repeatedly, or it took them more than a day to replace it, or would you be cool with it as long as it came back eventually and you always had enough to feed yourself?

Original post by tysonmaniac
Well I go to bed at 10 even at weekends, so none of the above.


Hmm. Would you be annoyed if you got kept up by a party going on until 10.30 or 11 on a Friday night (assuming that you don't work weekends, or at least don't start a shift before 9)?
And, if you can isolate it, though I know it's obviously going to be related, do you think these things are unacceptable of themselves, or simply when they affect you? By which I mean, if your flatmates knew you went to bed at 10 and made noise regardless, would you consider that bad? And if they knew instead that everyone living there went to bed at 12, even if they were not involved in the noise, would you still consider it to be bad?
Original post by Katie_p
Yeah, I bought headphones for this year because I have no idea how audible my music elsewhere, but I don't have it that loud anyway.
Would you mind if it happened repeatedly, or it took them more than a day to replace it, or would you be cool with it as long as it came back eventually and you always had enough to feed yourself?



Hmm. Would you be annoyed if you got kept up by a party going on until 10.30 or 11 on a Friday night (assuming that you don't work weekends, or at least don't start a shift before 9)?
And, if you can isolate it, though I know it's obviously going to be related, do you think these things are unacceptable of themselves, or simply when they affect you? By which I mean, if your flatmates knew you went to bed at 10 and made noise regardless, would you consider that bad? And if they knew instead that everyone living there went to bed at 12, even if they were not involved in the noise, would you still consider it to be bad?

As long as I can do it to them I wouldn't really care. :biggrin:. If I can't then I would accept it if it comes back eventually.
In my flat, only the first is acceptable.
Reply 6
my uni had sound curfews starting at midnight Sun-Thur, and then 2am on Friday and Saturday so we all knew when to shut up - it only annoyed me if I had an early start the next day, because I'd usually get to sleep at about 2am most nights anyway
Original post by Katie_p

Hmm. Would you be annoyed if you got kept up by a party going on until 10.30 or 11 on a Friday night (assuming that you don't work weekends, or at least don't start a shift before 9)?
And, if you can isolate it, though I know it's obviously going to be related, do you think these things are unacceptable of themselves, or simply when they affect you? By which I mean, if your flatmates knew you went to bed at 10 and made noise regardless, would you consider that bad? And if they knew instead that everyone living there went to bed at 12, even if they were not involved in the noise, would you still consider it to be bad?


Oh no, if everybody knows that nobody minds, then it is not a problem. I mean, really people should just be considerate, and acknowledge that sleep is more important than partying (especially since partying can happen elsewhere, while sleep cannot).

If you made noise when you know it disturbs people that is bad, if you are informed you are disturbing somebody you should stop, but otherwise why not? (aside from the fact that everybody - especially students - should be getting at least 7 hours sleep a night).
My halls were party central.

Monday was student night in town, so noise till about 3am.
Wednesday was party night in the SU bar so noise till about 3am.
Friday night was party in the SU bare again or in town, so noise till about 5am.
Saturday sometimes there was a party in the SU bar or a quiet one in the pub, so noise till about 12am.

We had 100 people in my halls and about 30 per floor. Ground floor was the noisiest because we knew how to throw a party. I would about 80% of halls went out 3 nights a week. On my floor it was close to 95% attendance on nights out.
Till 11 at weekends is fine, but I'd say 10 in the week otherwise it just not fair - I lived with nurses who did night shifts and had to get up early for placements etc. It was also really annoying for me on Tuesday nights as I had a nine AM on Wednesday and every Tuesday the flat next door were low until late - could hear conversations almost and there was another bedroom between mine and their kitchen!


Daytime though, unless you know your neighbour is trying to sleep, and you aren't being ridiculously loud, is your time to do as you like I guess
It's a student halls- you know before moving in that people will be playing music late and loud, and you have other alternatives should you not like that arrangement.
Reply 11
Original post by Dilzo999
As long as I can do it to them I wouldn't really care. :biggrin:. If I can't then I would accept it if it comes back eventually.


I completely agree, except I'm the type who'd get too annoyed in the first place to agree to it, unless there were a contract signed in ink...Jk, but I'd be annoyed if I hadn't agreed some kind of limit on it in advance (eg. milk, butter = fine, chicken and sauce = not fine)

Original post by JulietheCat
In my flat, only the first is acceptable.


By mutual agreement, enforcement from the authorities, or just because it happened like that?

Original post by bd95
my uni had sound curfews starting at midnight Sun-Thur, and then 2am on Friday and Saturday so we all knew when to shut up - it only annoyed me if I had an early start the next day, because I'd usually get to sleep at about 2am most nights anyway


Wow, I've never seen a curfew finishing later than midnight! I personally think 2am as a written curfew is completely unreasonable, because people probably wouldn't know about til they arrived, and if you need to work at the weekend, the accommodation staff aren't going to sympathise!

Original post by tysonmaniac
Oh no, if everybody knows that nobody minds, then it is not a problem. I mean, really people should just be considerate, and acknowledge that sleep is more important than partying (especially since partying can happen elsewhere, while sleep cannot).

If you made noise when you know it disturbs people that is bad, if you are informed you are disturbing somebody you should stop, but otherwise why not? (aside from the fact that everybody - especially students - should be getting at least 7 hours sleep a night).


OK, that sounds pretty much like my thoughts on the matter, except that I think after a certain cut-off point (and I don't know where exactly I think that is, because I'm more anal than some people, but at the same time I'll use earplugs so I can get to sleep) you shouldn't wait to be informed and should just shut up anyway. If you're making noise late at night, chances are you're drunk, and people might be afraid of how you react if you're asked to tone it down a bit. It's a tricky one, but there's definitely a point where the "we didn't realise we were disturbing anyone" defence really doesn't hold much.

Original post by DiddyDec
My halls were party central.

Monday was student night in town, so noise till about 3am.
Wednesday was party night in the SU bar so noise till about 3am.
Friday night was party in the SU bare again or in town, so noise till about 5am.
Saturday sometimes there was a party in the SU bar or a quiet one in the pub, so noise till about 12am.

We had 100 people in my halls and about 30 per floor. Ground floor was the noisiest because we knew how to throw a party. I would about 80% of halls went out 3 nights a week. On my floor it was close to 95% attendance on nights out.


In my halls they specifically put loud people on the ground floor and quiet on the top, which worked really well! But wow, 3 or 5am! Maybe I really am an old woman, but honestly, regular 3-5am noise would drive me crazy! I could tolerate it for the one big party of term, as long as I didn't have an exam scheduled the next day, though!

Original post by LittleRit
Till 11 at weekends is fine, but I'd say 10 in the week otherwise it just not fair - I lived with nurses who did night shifts and had to get up early for placements etc. It was also really annoying for me on Tuesday nights as I had a nine AM on Wednesday and every Tuesday the flat next door were low until late - could hear conversations almost and there was another bedroom between mine and their kitchen!

Daytime though, unless you know your neighbour is trying to sleep, and you aren't being ridiculously loud, is your time to do as you like I guess


Yeah, I realised when I went to answer the poll myself that I think noise in the week until 9 or 10 is fair game, but 11 is pushing it a bit for me! Oops! I also think the level of tolerable noise varies from weeknights to the weekend, because the sort of noise that goes through my earplugs with my window closed is, imo, not acceptable during the week at any time of day, and is still pushing it at the weekend if it's regular!

Daytime noise is another one that I'm not sure where I stand, because I've lived with someone who would complain if you coughed (not kidding) but at the same time, even music at a moderate volume, or singing to yourself or drumming your foot when you play video games can be really annoying for people who want to work during the day. Yeah, there are libraries, but they don't work for me. You could say that's my problem, but I think if someone wants to study for a few hours, they should have peace to do so, as long as they don't breathe down your neck at the slightest noise. I think i come down slightly in favour of "moderate noise in the day is fine", but I'd still probably bring it up if a flatmate sang to themself for three hours a day every day!
Reply 12
Original post by Tom_green_day
It's a student halls- you know before moving in that people will be playing music late and loud, and you have other alternatives should you not like that arrangement.


This is exactly the response I expected to get straight away and it's the one I take issue with.
Out of interest, what exactly do you think is acceptable in student halls? Because I'm pretty sure you can't think it's OK to make "party" level noise 24/7.

The other alternatives aren't that suitable for first years, and in the situation I'm currently in (halls-like individual appartments in large block) people constantly fall back on the "it's student accommodation, deal with it" line, but I literally had no alternative except not studying here at all.
I accept that at most UK Universities, you can choose to live out, but you would still be in a shared house, and in first year may find yourself with inconsiderate flatmates and suffer just as much disturbance as in some halls.

I know that my personal opinion on the matter is stricter than the norm, and therefore even if I tut and sigh when the bass starts pounding at 8pm and I know it won't stop for three hours, I won't say anything unless it's exam season, or I have a deadline in the next two days (and I know the perpetrators), or it's gone on at least forty-five minutes beyond the University's "curfew".
But I simply cannot agree that anything goes (if that's what you're saying) just because you're all students. To accept this implies that the priority of student life is partying and not getting an education, and whilst there's nothing wrong with having fun, allowing it to affect others negatively simply isn't fair.
Reply 13
Original post by R+G are dead
I think nearly all of these are quite unfair on people who go to university primarily to study, not to party and sleep through lectures. Socialising and partying is great, but not when and where other students are trying to sleep-maybe unis could invest in party buildings far, far away from halls?


I found Warwick absolutely great for this - you write a brief bio and get assigned "like" people in terms of noise, party and sleeping habits. I researched and chose the quietest accommodation, and got assigned a top floor (=quiet) flat there, and had very few noise complaints.
I think most Unis have at least one or two halls with a reputation as the "party" block, but because partying and whatnot is still seen as such a massive deal, any halls that are quieter tend to get a reputation as boring, which also, if you don't do much research, then gets passed on as just "bad". I imagine lots of people don't apply to "quiet" halls because they are worried that they'll make no friends and become an outcast, but it's perfectly possible to go to parties elsewhere and just make sure you shut up when you come back!
Original post by Katie_p
This is exactly the response I expected to get straight away and it's the one I take issue with. Out of interest, what exactly do you think is acceptable in student halls? Because I'm pretty sure you can't think it's OK to make "party" level noise 24/7. The other alternatives aren't that suitable for first years, and in the situation I'm currently in (halls-like individual appartments in large block) people constantly fall back on the "it's student accommodation, deal with it" line, but I literally had no alternative except not studying here at all. I accept that at most UK Universities, you can choose to live out, but you would still be in a shared house, and in first year may find yourself with inconsiderate flatmates and suffer just as much disturbance as in some halls. I know that my personal opinion on the matter is stricter than the norm, and therefore even if I tut and sigh when the bass starts pounding at 8pm and I know it won't stop for three hours, I won't say anything unless it's exam season, or I have a deadline in the next two days (and I know the perpetrators), or it's gone on at least forty-five minutes beyond the University's "curfew". But I simply cannot agree that anything goes (if that's what you're saying) just because you're all students. To accept this implies that the priority of student life is partying and not getting an education, and whilst there's nothing wrong with having fun, allowing it to affect others negatively simply isn't fair.
... Yeah, I am fully aware there will be party level noise 24/7, and I accept it. I'm going to live in student halls, not a retirement village. Maybe the alternatives aren't ideal but if you can't live with the noises you can't expect people to go out of their way to make alternatives. If you choose not to go in halls, the standard residential location, an alternative is up to you to find. You can party in places other than halls, and you can study in places other than halls, so saying education is more important and partying should be banned isn't fair. I for one can easily study to music anyway.
If it's a party type thing, loud music is more permissable. If you are just sat in your room alone blaring out your horrendous music at 12:30, then you are anti-social. I'd rather people didn't play loud music past 11pm on weekdays, due to lectures and whatnot, but would be less fussed about weekends/friday nights.
Reply 16
What do people think about practising musical instruments? I play violin. I know uni's have practice rooms but it could be a bit of a nuisance going there every time you wanted to practice..
Reply 17
Why I am glad I'm not living in halls. I have very low tolerance for noise and I like my sleep. :P If someone stole my food without asking I would be livid. If they asked and said they would replace it than perhaps fair enough but I don't want my stuff to disappear without a word even if it will eventually be replaced. :P
Reply 18
Original post by Tom_green_day
... Yeah, I am fully aware there will be party level noise 24/7, and I accept it. I'm going to live in student halls, not a retirement village. Maybe the alternatives aren't ideal but if you can't live with the noises you can't expect people to go out of their way to make alternatives. If you choose not to go in halls, the standard residential location, an alternative is up to you to find. You can party in places other than halls, and you can study in places other than halls, so saying education is more important and partying should be banned isn't fair. I for one can easily study to music anyway.


Preferring to study to music is fine, and I get that using headphones all the time can hurt your ears, but I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that noise 24/7 is OK.
I mean, even if you think "quiet hours" should be loosely enforced and apply from 4am-8am or something, how can you be OK with it being too loud to sleep all the time?
The thing is, it doesn't require people to go out of their way to keep noise down. Party outside halls during the week, or keep it to the weekends. Turn music down a bit so you're not screaming over it. I don't expect everyone to be silent, but neither do I think it's OK to have parties finishing at 3am or later four nights in a row, even if we are students.
Reply 19
Original post by Pro Crastination
If it's a party type thing, loud music is more permissable. If you are just sat in your room alone blaring out your horrendous music at 12:30, then you are anti-social. I'd rather people didn't play loud music past 11pm on weekdays, due to lectures and whatnot, but would be less fussed about weekends/friday nights.


Yeah, the night-time ones were referring to parties or loud chat or whatever, but potentially involving only one person from the flat itself.
As I write this, someone has started playing music which itself isn't that loud, but the bass is doing my head in, vibrating everything. I have no idea where it's coming from, but it sounds like the same sort of place that the 10am on Sunday club music comes from! I don't understand how someone can be that antisocial!

Original post by quackbaa
What do people think about practising musical instruments? I play violin. I know uni's have practice rooms but it could be a bit of a nuisance going there every time you wanted to practice..


I told my flatmates if I wanted to practise (but not people downstairs) and wouldn't start before 11am or go later than 4. I'd try to play quietly too. Rarely did it.

Original post by Kelz
Why I am glad I'm not living in halls. I have very low tolerance for noise and I like my sleep. :P If someone stole my food without asking I would be livid. If they asked and said they would replace it than perhaps fair enough but I don't want my stuff to disappear without a word even if it will eventually be replaced. :P


Haha, yeah I am delighted not to be going back into them next year! I'm living with my parents, so there will be no noise whatsoever...well, except my dog acting as an alarm clock at half 6!

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