Getting Stoned

You don't need to be a pharmacologist, you just need to look up some information in order to make sure you're being safe. You are the definition of an irresponsible, unsafe drug user. You are why drugs and drug users have bad reputations. You're a good example of what can happen if you're not careful.

It's all very well saying this, but if someone hands you some mandy at a party for the first time most people aren't gonna say cheers then do some research on their phone before they take it. Me personally I don't dabble in those drugs so it's not a problem for me. But in a social situation people don't really think twice before doing what all their friends are doing

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You don't need to be a pharmacologist, you just need to look up some information in order to make sure you're being safe. You are the definition of an irresponsible, unsafe drug user. You are why drugs and drug users have bad reputations. You're a good example of what can happen if you're not careful.

It's all very well saying this, but if someone hands you some mandy at a party for the first time most people aren't gonna say cheers then do some research on their phone before they take it. Me personally I don't dabble in those drugs so it's not a problem for me. But in a social situation people don't really think twice before doing what all their friends are doing

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So you say ......



What he says is real whereas what alexs says isn't real.

But a lot of people aren't clever, and is it reasonable to expect them to be? People don't learn about drugs like MDMA and what doses to take etc. (if they are going to) at school, so unless they do their own research they won't really know. So if taking MDMA is a spontaneous decision by somebody at a party or something, it can then very quickly become a dangerous drug.

I know a person who almost died from using MDMA. He used cocaine on nights out before MDMA and didn't really know near anything about MDMA. Cocaine is taken in higher amounts than MDMA, he was having about 3 grams of cocaine on a night out. He just presumed since MDMA wasn't as notorious as a drug, and anybody who's taken MDMA would know somebody who's never taken it before having 3 grams on their first time would have potentially lethal consequences. Thankfully he didn't die, but MDMA can be a very dangerous drug to those who don't have knowledge of how to do it responsibly, and considering schools don't teach this not everybody will end up doing their research before taking MDMA.

Pills are probably about as dangerous as powder or safer if you know what you're doing. If you know the presses and which ones are from reputable sources then you're arguably safer. Pill reports(a website) can be helpful there if you look for tested pills. But you bought up a fair point. MDMA in itself isn't that dangerous but what dealers sell as MDMA might be more so. Methylone, PMA. Powder can also have low purity MDMA or have no MDMA in it, like pills. Most powder drugs out there are off white. Though MDMA can come in two colours depending on synthesis method. Safrole based MDMA has a brownish tint.

All that being said there are harm reduction methods. Drugs can be tested. In the Netherlands you can send pills to a lab and for a small fee they will test the actual contents of a pill but obviously we can't do that in the UK. That being said there are reagent tests that test the presence of drugs out there. Not the most reliable, because they test for the presence and obviously aren't able to test simultaneously for two different present drugs, but better than nothing. There's also a new test that apparently tests purity but I don't know much about it because it's so new.

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He kinda has a point but we've already established you irresponsible. Why does it matter what you think?

This is all well and good, but the vast majority of people who take ecstasy in a club will take whatever's given to them, making it dangerous.

I do agree with you, though, and think there are a lot of drugs that can be taken safely. I would happily take certain drugs if I knew they were made in laboratory conditions.

All drugs are made in laboratory conditions.

No they aren't. Regulated laboratory conditions then.

How can you possibly know that?

It remains popular in Amsterdam, where it has been legal for a rather long time.

More teenagers smoke cannabis in London than in Amsterdam.

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This is all well and good, but the vast majority of people who take ecstasy in a club will take whatever's given to them, making it dangerous.

I do agree with you, though, and think there are a lot of drugs that can be taken safely. I would happily take certain drugs if I knew they were made in laboratory conditions.

Is that a fact? It's probably true, given the population of London is about 10 times that of Amsterdam.

Crap post, though.

More teenagers smoke cannabis in London than in Amsterdam.

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Look up the facts. Cannabis use is higher where illegal and lower where decriminalised or legal.

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There's a cannabis legal age in the Netherlands and don't mistake a difference in cultural attitudes for evidence of your claim.

Given the number of places where it is legal, do you have data on any places other than Amsterdam? Also how do they carry out this survey, I've not been asked whether I smoked. Those facts are pretty rubbish

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