Where is the feminist outrage over what happened in Rotherham?

People are acting like Asian men are the only paedophiles out there. Ignoring the fact that it isn't solely about 'sorting out Asian men' but sorting out men (and even women in some cases) who think its okay to commit acts of paedophilia. By acting like Asian men are the only groups of men that do disgusting stuff like this, you're indirectly making it seem like it's okay to commit sexual abuse as long as you're not Asian and 'can get away with it'. Jimmy Saville was a sexual offender for six decades, sexually abusing hundreds of people, female and male from all different ages and he never got prosecuted or even charged for it suggesting that there is something wrong with the justice system which is allowing sexual offenders to go unnoticed and unpunished for far too long, and also something wrong with various institutions and communities scattered across the country which are all allowing child abuse and grooming to go on with no one challenging or reporting it. Grooming and child abuse isn't exclusive to Pakistani men in Rotherham, but is something that affects people in all different communities by people of all different ethnicities. We aren't ever going to be able to eliminate it if we adopt an 'us v. them' mentality that suggests 'we're all okay' and 'they're all paedophiles'.

No one is letting them off the hook? Obviously what happened is disgusting.

However don't you dare try to say Pakistani culture is "rapey". The vast majority of Pakistanis are as against rape as anyone.

Modern-day feminism is ultimately about well-off women trying to settle scores, so it's not surprising that they focus on first-world problems while truly massive issues facing women liked forced marriage, female genital manipulation, and this are all but completely sidelined; they predominately effect the socioeconomic groups feminists honestly couldn't care less about.

Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc all worked alone.
Only Pakistani men seem to be running organised grooming gangs.

i don't care about what race or ethnicity they were born into. i care about the culture attached to it and the culture raising them.

ur confusing race with ethnicity. ethnicity usually has a culture assigned. race does not.
the community has a culture. the culture is providing a incubating environment for pedophiles.

so saying "white people" isnt the same as saying "czech people".

ive repeated 3 times now how the pakistani pedophiles are different because the police have tactics that are based on communities that dislike pedophiles.
every other community hates pedophiles and will deal with it in a vigil ante or law abiding way. pakistanis do not deal with the the problem. and they support the pedophiles and help them evade capture. that is the difference. please let me know about another community that does this. if you can.

which community other than the pakistani community has such a spiked rise in pedophiles?

you say their culture does not teach them to be like this. do you know how many children under the age of 14 get married in pakistan?
do you think it was disgusting the the prophet muhammad had sex with a 9 year old?

ive made very good points. you are ignoring them and merely repeating your self.

youve said the same arguments over n over without actually effectively challenging any of mine. you simply say we shouldnt focus on the cultural nor should we focus on the fact that they are the ONLY community that assists their pedophiles to evade the police. now that may sound like a small problem. but its a very BIG problem because the police operate off of cooperation with the community.

and too your whole repetitive response of "we shouldnt focus on the fact they are pakistani (and that pakistani culture and religion incubates this behaviour) we should just focus the pedophiles" once again i send you back to my previous quotes in regards to how black and irish issues get focused on and its pragmatically beneficial despite the fact that uncomfortable stereotypes are confronted.

no social work or police work has ever been successful by ignoring the root cause of issues and just focusing on the act in a vacuum

Modern-day feminism is ultimately about well-off women trying to settle scores, so it's not surprising that they focus on first-world problems while truly massive issues facing women liked forced marriage, female genital manipulation, and this are all but completely sidelined; they predominately effect the socioeconomic groups feminists honestly couldn't care less about.

Really? Maybe the 'feminists' you meet in everyday life are more concerned about sexism in Robin Thicke songs but the feminist movement as a whole is very LOUD on forced marriages, female genital manipulation, female education in third world countries. I can probably find various links which show that feminism is very active in tackling issues like this, in fact there are many feminists out there that admit feminism isn't as much as of an issue in first-world countries but is still needed for third world countries or for people living in first world countries that are still affected by repressive cultures.

Infact let me do a quick google (which is all you need to do to find the various feminist charities that are dedicated to stop the things you've mentions)


- http://www.womenforwomen.org.uk/

"Women for Women International provides women survivors of war, civil strife and other conflicts with the tools and resources to move from crisis and poverty to stability and self-sufficiency, thereby promoting viable civil societies."

- http://www.asafeworldforwomen.org/

"A global women's rights and advocacy organization campaigning against injustice. Safe World forms partnerships with grassroots organizations and groups worldwide to effect change in a positive way"

- http://www.equalitynow.org/english/index.html

"Working to end violence and discrimination against women and girls around the world through mobilizing public pressure, raising visibility and wielding political pressure to ensure governments act. Issues of concern include rape, domestic violence, reproductive rights, trafficking and female genital mutilation."

- http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/

"The Feminist Peace Network advocates for the human rights of women by raising awareness about misogyny and global violence against women."


- http://www.womankind.org.uk/

"Womankind Worldwide believes that women in developing countries are a powerful force for change. The charity works with women's organizations in Africa, Asia and Latin America. All projects are committed to enabling women to understand their legal rights and using this to benefit their daily lives."

People seem to forget that there is no universal feminist movement. There are various feminist movements which all have different priorities and work to tackle different issues. Not all feminists agree on issues affecting female, you can't find a single 'feminist viewpoint', a feminist is simply someone who believes in the equality of females. Different feminists will go about this belief differently.

If all other communities are able to tackle paedophilia and sexual abuse as effectively as you claim, how come so many cases go unnoticed for years? The whole Jimmy Saville thing wouldn't have happened if it was just a case of 'police can only work with communities that dislike sexual abuse and Pakistani's don't dislike sexual abuse'. If you look up the case, various people in various positions, knew what was going on but decided to turn a blind-eye to it. Doesn't sound like community that 'dislikes sexual abuse' to me.

A lot of it has been reported as 'Asian men' which is why I interchange between the two. In fact I had no idea the men were Pakistani until I saw this thread on TSR, I'd just heard that they were Asian. When I say white people, I'm referring mostly to white British people, to clarify.

Pakistani's aren't the only groups that do this though. That's my whole point. If they were, I'd understand your point fully, but they aren't.

That doesn't make it okay before you start ranting about how I'm saying 'ignore Pakistani's cause everyone else does it too'

My point is that various communities in all different areas are reluctant to speak out against sexual abuse,

that's something that we need to learn to tackle otherwise sexual abusers will continue to get away with their crimes. In one of the news report, one of the victims talked about how when she tried to report what had happened to her, the police called her names and accused of her being a 'slut' and being her abuser's 'mistress', it isn't just the Pakistani's who are failing to tackle the sexual abuse in these areas, but also the police.

My whole point which I have reiterated several times is that sexual abuse isn't exclusive to Pakistani's, treating it like it is isn't going to solve anything. You can talk about 'fixing Pakistani culture' all you want, but then you're not actually tackling the whole problem.

Discouraging sexism, and the objectification of women in Pakistani cultures will definitely help and I'm not denying that but like I've repeated countless times you can't look at these abuses through the 'us v. them' mentality (even if the perpetrators did the crimes in that way, that doesn't mean we have to scoop down to their level) because both 'us' and 'them' didn't act appropriately and in many other unrelated cases still aren't acting appropriately. You can try fix 'them' but then you're denying that there is a problem with 'us'.

How do you know that their ethnicity is the root cause of their problem? I'm sorry but how much do you know about Pakistani cultures and these communities for you to be declaring their ethnicity as the root cause of their problem?

When British paedophiles are caught, no one even mentions ethnicity. I've never heard someone blame Britishness as a cause of paedophilia. Why does ethnicity become a 'root cause' as soon as that person is revealed to be non-white/non-British?

Have you been following the Ferguson riots? Have you been following the controversy in Britain over stop and search and the over-representation of ethnic minorities in prison not because ethnic minorities necessarily commit more crime but because they're more likely to get reported/prosecuted for their crimes? I don't get how you can say all this is 'pragmatically beneficial', maybe for white people yes but for the various black people that are treated like criminals simply for being black, not so much.

However don't you dare try to say Pakistani culture is "rapey". The vast majority of Pakistanis are as against rape as anyone.

Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc all worked alone.
Only Pakistani men seem to be running organised grooming gangs.