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Where is the feminist outrage over what happened in Rotherham?

They keep going on about imaginary rape culture in universities (caused by silly pop songs and 'lad banter'), but ignore a real 'rape culture' where young girls are groomed by men and passed around without impunity.

The men guilty of these crimes were predominately of Pakistani hertiage. Of course their ethnicity isn't to blame but rather primitive cultural and religion aspects that most Pakistani Brits have shook off. Modern feminists seem to let them of the hook because they are non-white or foreign.

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Original post by Falcatas
They keep going on about imaginary rape culture in universities (caused by silly pop songs and 'lad banter'), but ignore a real 'rape culture' where young girls are groomed by men and passed around without impunity.

The men guilty of these crimes were predominately of Pakistani hertiage. Of course their ethnicity isn't to blame but rather primitive cultural and religion aspects that most Pakistani Brits have shook off. Modern feminists seem to let them of the hook because they are non-white or foreign.


No one is letting them off the hook? Obviously what happened is disgusting.

However don't you dare try to say Pakistani culture is "rapey". The vast majority of Pakistanis are as against rape as anyone.
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Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
No one is letting them off the hook? Obviously what happened is disgusting.

However don't you dare try to say Pakistani culture is "rapey". The vast majority of Pakistanis are as against rape as anyone.



It is ultimately caused by tribal religious aspects. It isn't nice to admit but Pakistan really does have high rape statistics and rates of honour killings etc.
Original post by Falcatas
It is ultimately caused by tribal religious aspects. It isn't nice to admit but Pakistan really does have high rape statistics and rates of honour killings etc.


Which is down to a lack of education which is down to inequality If England had that level of divide, we'd have the same problem
Went over to check out the harpies that infest mumsnet feminist forums earlier.
Not a word about it.
When the times was covering this in 2010 it was all over the news with a new case practically every week and they were avoiding it like the plague then too.
As most of them are left wing and like many left wingers, have spent the last ten years screaming racist into the face of anyone that tried to bring this up, perhaps they are showing some shamefaced decency to keep their mouths shut and their heads down, but I somehow doubt it.
It is more likely that it doesnt fit with their agenda so they just ignore it.
Too busy turning females into men.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
No one is letting them off the hook? Obviously what happened is disgusting.

However don't you dare try to say Pakistani culture is "rapey". The vast majority of Pakistanis are as against rape as anyone.


Don't you go along with the idea that there's a rape culture in Britain? Or at least support people who do?
Original post by manchesterunited15
Don't you go along with the idea that there's a rape culture in Britain? Or at least support people who do?


To an extent. I don't believe the "every man is a potential rapist" but I do genuinely think there are some deeply embedded ideas that are rapey
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
To an extent. I don't believe the "every man is a potential rapist" but I do genuinely think there are some deeply embedded ideas that are rapey


Then how can you have a go at that guy for talking about a rape culture in a country that has more rapes than Britain? It wouldn't have anything to do with your boyfriend being from there, would it?
Original post by manchesterunited15
Then how can you have a go at that guy for talking about a rape culture in a country that has more rapes than Britain? It wouldn't have anything to do with your boyfriend being from there, would it?


He implied Pakistanis as a whole were rapey. I wouldhave depended the statement if he said "British men are rapey". Just because there may be elements which need changing doesn't make the culture as a whole a rape culture

My boyfriend's ethnicity is irrelevant to this discussion
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Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
To an extent. I don't believe the "every man is a potential rapist" but I do genuinely think there are some deeply embedded ideas that are rapey



But do you think that some cultural groups are more prone to these ideas then others? (again due to religion and historical context)
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
He implied Pakistanis as a whole were rapey. I wouldhave depended the statement if he said "British men are rapey". Just because there may be elements which need changing doesn't make the culture as a whole a rape culture

My boyfriend's ethnicity is irrelevant to this discussion


How did he? He said "rape culture" and then he said Pakistan is a less developed country than Britain, a perfectly valid statement.
Original post by Falcatas
But do you think that some cultural groups are more prone to these ideas then others? (again due to religion and historical context)


Not necessarily, I think the uneducated are. However there are obviously certain demographics that have more uneducated people in them than others.
Modern-day feminism is ultimately about well-off women trying to settle scores, so it's not surprising that they focus on first-world problems while truly massive issues facing women liked forced marriage, female genital manipulation, and this are all but completely sidelined; they predominately effect the socioeconomic groups feminists honestly couldn't care less about.
Original post by manchesterunited15
How did he? He said "rape culture" and then he said Pakistan is a less developed country than Britain, a perfectly valid statement.


blame but rather primitive cultural and religion aspects

The thing is it's less about culture and more about education with the issues in Pakistan. That's what I take issue with, people are too quick to say "Ewww look at that non Western culture, how horrible!" rather than to look at the specific issues and what causes them
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
No one is letting them off the hook? Obviously what happened is disgusting.

However don't you dare try to say Pakistani culture is "rapey". The vast majority of Pakistanis are as against rape as anyone.


Actually Pakistan has a serious problem with rape culture (the actual rape culture). It leads the world in google searches for rape porn and child porn. Factor into this that it is an extremely conservative religious country, and that its prophet, which it idolises, is said to have had relations with a 9-year old, I think there is something to be said about Pakistan having rape culture.

This does not mean that most Pakistanis are rapists or paedophiles by any stretch, but that dismissing any concerns and desire to eradicate said rape culture is extremely foolish.
The BBC or at least one member of their staff have/has been caught out as well. According to those over on Reddit, this news article has been changed to suit the disgusting left wing agenda. They've changed the term 'Pakistani' to 'Asian' to blanket term it. If you click through the changes its quite disturbing and shocking how the article changes so much from one thing to another.

http://newsdiffs.org/diff/657896/657911/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
blame but rather primitive cultural and religion aspects

The thing is it's less about culture and more about education with the issues in Pakistan. That's what I take issue with, people are too quick to say "Ewww look at that non Western culture, how horrible!" rather than to look at the specific issues and what causes them


I'm sorry but I don't understand the difference between what he said and what feminists say.
Original post by TheAnusFiles
Actually Pakistan has a serious problem with rape culture (the actual rape culture). It leads the world in google searches for rape porn and child porn. Factor into this that it is an extremely conservative religious country, and that its prophet, which it idolises, is said to have had relations with a 9-year old, I think there is something to be said about Pakistan having rape culture.

This does not mean that most Pakistanis are rapists or paedophiles by any stretch, but that dismissing any concerns and desire to eradicate said rape culture is extremely foolish.


Don't get me started on the thing about Muhammed (PBUH) I can rant about that for hours, he isn't a pedo, do your research.

But onto your other points - a lot of that comes into what I said about education level.

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