Men see bikini-clad women as objects

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/19/women.bikinis.objects/index.html?eref=rss_us

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/090216-bikinis-women-men-objects.html

Hope this is the right place to discuss this issue.

This study shows how deeply rooted this problem is. Would we call this liberation of women or exploitation?

Would a woman really be ok with men looking at her as a mere tool/object?

Now think of the entertainment business, whether movies or songs (especially by rappers) etc. and how they have engrained this sickness in the minds of males. It is about time women realize they are being played and should restore their dignity by dressing modestly.

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Reply 1

RtGOAT

And women see 'beach body' men as objects.

Reply 2

Black Cat

It's a sexy ting u get me?

Reply 3

Dez

This study is dreadful. The sample size is microscopic, diversity is non-existent (they were all undergrads), there's apparently been no follow-up tests. It's also five years old. Hardly much fact to base your opinion on.

So?

Original post by Dez

But it is common sense, for ages we have been hearing the phrase "women are objectified", this study only further solidifies that position.

Reply 6

Dez

Original post by saalih

But it is common sense, for ages we have been hearing the phrase "women are objectified", this study only further solidifies that position.

This study does nothing, it's not worth the paper it's written on. And personally, I wouldn't say that the intricacies of human psychology are anything near "common sense". It's possible that objectification is deep-rooted as the study suggests, but basing your beliefs on how society should act based on this non-study and its conclusions is foolish.

Reply 7

alexs2602

Original post by saalih

But it is common sense, for ages we have been hearing the phrase "women are objectified", this study only further solidifies that position.

Popular opinion is not confirmation of fact. Otherwise there'd be no innovation, no discoveries. We'd still live in the stone age.

21 sample points? Are they kidding? <30 is small. In a study like this you'd need considerable more. Hundreds.

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 8

saalih

Original post by Dez

it is a study whether you like it or not. It makes perfect sense also, women shedding their clothes in public humiliate themselves and degrade themselves in the name of freedom and the men exploit that to the core, what on earth a bikini clad woman has to do with car magazines? or any other non female product for that matter?

Reply 9

saalih

Original post by alexs2602

It is not popular opinion, in fact quite the opposite, today the general population has no problem with women shedding their clothes in public in the name of freedom, this study challenges that norm and I agree with it. Men are exploiting women and women are not realizing it.

Reply 10

mynameisntbobk

"The participants, 21 heterosexual male undergraduates"

Lol go away

Reply 11

xmertic

Original post by saalih

The problem is, I think a lot of women see men as objects as well.

Reply 12

al_94

The funny thing is you don't need to do a scientific study to prove this. Its common sense.

Reply 13

SarcasticMel

Original post by saalih

I just made a study of caucasian women in their 20s. 100% of them prefer to work and not stay at home.

Come at me bro.

Reply 14

saalih

Original post by xmertic

The problem is, I think a lot of women see men as objects as well.

it might apply to some women but look around you (billboards/movies/songs/magazines/etc.) and you can see which gender became an object.

Reply 15

saalih

Original post by SarcasticMel

I just made a study of caucasian women in their 20s. 100% of them prefer to work and not stay at home.

Come at me bro.

your user id says it all..

Reply 16

xmertic

Original post by saalih

it might apply to some women but look around you (billboards/movies/songs/magazines/etc.) and you can see which gender became an object.

No, that's marketing. And men are on/in all those things as well. The thing is, even girls who are straight will look at an attractive women and acknowledge they are attractive. From my experience a lot of guys don't/won't do that.

I think you have a slightly narrow opinion, when it comes down to sexualising something, both genders are objects to the other.

Reply 17

TenOfThem

Original post by saalih

women shedding their clothes in public humiliate themselves and degrade themselves in the name of freedom

You seem to have some pre-conceived ideas on this issue

Original post by saalih

today the general population has no problem with women shedding their clothes in public

indeed - so how is it humiliating?

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 18

TheShep

So the diet coke advert where the group of ladies are ogling the handsome, muscular guy is different is it?

It happens on both sides. Honestly just get on with life.