Why do women very rarely approach men?

ah im irish so...it roughly translate to..dont worry about it love..youll be fine surely!
ah feck room for bf number 2?

wtf is a "cold approach"? Some kind of PUA woman-repellent bull**** terminology.

and to be clear, wattsy was specifically asking about escalation, not initiation. So that is the question I answered.



Look, go to the pub with some mates. Do women come and chat to you?

If yes, you are attractive.
If no, you are not.

Tbh, I can't help but agree with some of your comments in this thread. I'm a slim black girl, and I've always had trouble attracting guys. Even at school, all the fat white girls were getting boyfriends before I was. Which I don't mean in a horrible way, as fat people don't really bother me personally, but it only confused me a bit because I noticed the media and internet forums like to paint being fat as bad, but then I guess that maybe society still prefers fat and white women over black women.

ara youll be grand kid
black women are something different..theres always gonna be lads who like that

Are you black though?

Well I don't see the problem dating out my race, others do. I'm black so I'm undiserable compared to a girl of another race who may look worse than me.

Also, race matters. I don't make it an issue. Racism isn't over, you can say ''everyone is the same, race does not matter'' but honestly it does. Saying it does not does not put an end to racism. People should talk about it to make it NOT an issue.

Just because you experience no racism does not mean that others don't, it also does not mean you should disregard when it happens to others.

Cultural norms. I'm a girl and I've never made the first move in my life, mostly because I've never needed to, guys whoare worth persuing (i.e. confident and interest in you) will approach you.

But we don't want to be seen as different. We don't want guys with a fetish.


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I lack the self confidence to approach women. Which results in everyone I meet thinking I'm gay. Which is the reason why I'll forever be alone.

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It has historically been considered the man's "job" to approach, and it's a culture which is self-perpetuating.

Because it is the cultural norm that men approach women, a woman might assume that if a man isn't approaching her, it means that he probably isn't interested in her. Therefore, even if she is interested in him, she still probably won't approach him. This means that, when a man is interested in a woman, he feels that he has to approach her if he wants anything to happen, since she is unlikely to do it herself. So he approaches her, and the cultural norm continues...

Euurrgghhh I hate that attitude! cultural norms? erm no just cultural difference and i can say the same about women, if they can't approach you they're not worth it.

Don't worry OP, in japan girls approach men, it's just a cultural difference, japanese men would approach girls if they had more confidence and don't act like "well if they not gonna do it they're not worth persuing"

I find most of the relationship thing in the uk a joke when i'm in other countries. Countries where girls actually act as equals and are respectful and are not stuck up is the way to be.

I said as a whole bw are undesirable due to our features. Why deny this?

I think you need a self-esteem boost. That is all.

In the white community (and even the black community to an extent) there are derogatory stereotypes regarding black partners.
Black men are violent, uneducated, unreliable and lazy and abandon their children. They're seen as being the guys only up for a fling 'in da club' (like the guys on RnB videos.
Black women are sassy, only care about money, they're angry, they have had sex with every guy 'in the hood', their standards are too high, they all have kids, and are absolutely crazy about chasing men.

Yes it can be easier because there are more white people around, but I'm always reminded of the quote: "if it's white it's alright". White is the accepted norm. Black and Asian people most of the time don't have much of an option other than to venture outside of their own race.

Black men and women also increasingly have to live up to European beauty standards. Just do research on the act of 'hair relaxing'.