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Original post by faezhafez
I stand corrected, I thought so it was the richest but got scared I would offend anyone in the trend by saying that :P Yah I "visited" St Johns College when i passed by the college. I said "visited" cause it was looking at the entrance bit and the lawn. I actually quite like it, so I probably put that as my first choice. Will you be doing DPhil as well then? :smile:


You saw the nice bit- there are two (and a half) pretty quads, and then it gets a bit uglier the further you go in...But the richness makes up for that. :tongue: Nice dining hall and library too. I'm in the first year of my DPhil at St. John's now.

Original post by Yes, alright
I sort of assumed it was (at least principally) up to the relevant tutors at each college whether to admit students in their field - is that not the case?


What Josb said- don't try to understand the system. :tongue: I applied to New, where my supervisor is, and didn't get in...so who knows!

Original post by redrose27
I'm facing a huge dilemma. I found out that I've been given my program's departmental award, which normally would absolutely thrill me since this would mean that I can afford the Oxford Master's without any debt. However, i'm facing some serious health issues recently and i'm beginning to worry that it might be a bad idea for me to go for an intense post-graduate program, especially since it would mean I would be far away from all my support systems (my family, my doctor, my specialist, my partner). I have chronic health issues but they had been manageable until quite recently, and while i'm working on getting better, it's a really uncertain thing (i've tried three different medications in the last five weeks and will be starting another on Monday). I never imagined I would be awarded this funding, and it is killing me to think that i might have to turn down not only the spot but the money as well. I don't know what to do...the UK does luckily give access to its health services to foreign international visa students but having to go, find a doctor and establish a rapport with them, transfer my medical files, and have someone monitor my medication transitions (especially if i still will be working out dosages) all concurrent to beginning an intense 9 month program is starting to sound less and less possible.

It's a bit of a long shot, but is there anyone else going in to their postgraduate program with a severe or chronic health issue? i know that disability services can accommodate certain things (visual aids, hearing aids, etc.) and have registered with them already, but i'm honestly afraid that I am going to go in and my health will just be so poor (or made worse from the stress of moving and starting a new program) that i will end up having to go on a medical leave and waste all that time, money, and stress.

The wiser move for me would be to just defer my offer, but I don't think i can defer the scholarship. Do I take the award and try my best, risking the possibility that my health might interfere or end my studies, or do i defer by a year until my health is more stable but then kick myself forever knowing that I passed up on a (partially) funded Oxford degree?


Sorry to hear about your situation (and congrats on the scholarship). I would say at least try and speak to the people who have given you your place/the scholarship to see if there is any possibility of deferring. It might be unlikely but it's worth at least asking- and they'll be able to give you some advice either way.
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O wise people of this thread--I refuse to purchase my Oxford degree, particularly as an international student. Shall I defer or reapply? Are there greater scholarship opportunities for either route? Would appreciate any and all feedback!
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Original post by person28
O wise people of this thread--I refuse to purchase my Oxford degree, particularly as an international student. Shall I defer or reapply? Are there greater scholarship opportunities for either route? Would appreciate any and all feedback!


Reapply
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I believe using the term "purchase" is condesecending. It suggests, quite naively, that anyone can get any degree, be it from Oxford or from any other place one did not get funding from. It also doesn't take into account the sad reality that there are many more accomplished applicants than there are scholarships, especially if one considers the international scope of a place like Oxford.

Finally, the difficulty of getting into a program varies by department, but I feel that even the ones that accept a higher number of students have made their decisions according to high standards, since the faculty has no certainty who will end up attending in the end.
Original post by bioy
I believe using the term "purchase" is condesecending. It suggests, quite naively, that anyone can get any degree, be it from Oxford or from any other place one did not get funding from. It also doesn't take into account the sad reality that there are many more accomplished applicants than there are scholarships, especially if one considers the international scope of a place like Oxford.

Finally, the difficulty of getting into a program varies by department, but I feel that even the ones that accept a higher number of students have made their decisions according to high standards, since the faculty has no certainty who will end up attending in the end.


I agree and by no means am I insinuating that less-than-accomplished students receive offers.

However, there are a bunch of countries/UK universities that are either much more affordable or have more funding opportunities for international students than Oxford does. Bearing that in mind, I'd rather reapply or go somewhere that won't cost me £70,000 over two years. I'm not going to purchase a place for Oxford on my CV. Others might or be in the position to and that's fine too. No judgement or condescension intended.
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Original post by redrose27
I'm facing a huge dilemma. I found out that I've been given my program's departmental award, which normally would absolutely thrill me since this would mean that I can afford the Oxford Master's without any debt. However, i'm facing some serious health issues recently and i'm beginning to worry that it might be a bad idea for me to go for an intense post-graduate program, especially since it would mean I would be far away from all my support systems (my family, my doctor, my specialist, my partner). I have chronic health issues but they had been manageable until quite recently, and while i'm working on getting better, it's a really uncertain thing (i've tried three different medications in the last five weeks and will be starting another on Monday). I never imagined I would be awarded this funding, and it is killing me to think that i might have to turn down not only the spot but the money as well. I don't know what to do...the UK does luckily give access to its health services to foreign international visa students but having to go, find a doctor and establish a rapport with them, transfer my medical files, and have someone monitor my medication transitions (especially if i still will be working out dosages) all concurrent to beginning an intense 9 month program is starting to sound less and less possible.

It's a bit of a long shot, but is there anyone else going in to their postgraduate program with a severe or chronic health issue? i know that disability services can accommodate certain things (visual aids, hearing aids, etc.) and have registered with them already, but i'm honestly afraid that I am going to go in and my health will just be so poor (or made worse from the stress of moving and starting a new program) that i will end up having to go on a medical leave and waste all that time, money, and stress.

The wiser move for me would be to just defer my offer, but I don't think i can defer the scholarship. Do I take the award and try my best, risking the possibility that my health might interfere or end my studies, or do i defer by a year until my health is more stable but then kick myself forever knowing that I passed up on a (partially) funded Oxford degree?


Hey! Congratulations on getting the award! I'm going into my postgraduate (MSc) with a chronic health issue, so I'll try and give you my advice (obviously I don't know your personal circumstances so it's difficult to judge).
1. I think the one thing that should really make you reconsider going to Oxford is the degree to which your issue has become unmanageable. It is one thing to be dealing with health issues on a daily basis, but it's another not to be sure which issues/how well you're dealing with them. My (now managed) condition became unmanageable last year, and if I had entered Oxford at that point I would have had to leave pretty quickly. But then again, it depends on how much care, time and attention your issue requires.
2. I'm an international student living in the UK, and I have found the provision of care compared to that of my home country to be extremely poor, to say the least (two weeks to see a GP, five-month delay to see a specialist, who then warned me there would be a three-month delay for me to get access to special care - but I'm guessing it would depend on your issue). So i would advise you to get in touch with medical centers and ask about the procedures and delays as soon as possible (for instance, I know I won't be able to see a specialist whilst at Oxford, because by the time the eight months delay is gone, I'll be finishing my degree).
3. You also have the possibility of coming to Oxford, doing your first term, and suspending your degree for a year, coming back the January after. This might be worth considering, if you feel like you might be able to get through it. I know quite a few people who have done it without any problem.
Best of luck!
Original post by MscDev
Reapply


You think? Why do you say so?
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Original post by person28
You think? Why do you say so?


There are a lot of scholarships like the Weidenfeld, which aren't open to deferred applicants.
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Finally got an offer from Wolfson with no funding. Awesome. :nothing:
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Original post by bioy
Finally got an offer from Wolfson with no funding. Awesome. :nothing:

Same, Kellogg without funding.
I have been moved to the only college with no fellow in my field. :confused:
Original post by Zefiros
Go for Cambridge. Just being real here, sorry. I think you should be glad that Cambridge gave you funding, which is very sparse at masters level. You have gotten accepted to Oxford twice now, both times without funding. There is no guarantee at all that you will get funding if you apply a third time. If you don't funding next year, you might miss out on Cambridge as well because you are not guaranteed to get a funded place in Cambridge next year. If you could defer Cambridge for a year (without being bound to attend the year after), it might be a different matter because you will always have a back-up.


I am replying here to Zefiros and Josb, many thanks guys for finding time to answer my question and help me! Indeed, I plan to do as you advised and accept a funded place at Cambridge (since there are still no news about funding for Oxford). I have already accepted a scholarship. But I am still a bit worried about the quality of public policy networks at Oxford/Cambridge. Both are excellent schools, but it seems to me that the Blavatnik School of Government is more 'connected', if I can say so. So I presume the Blavatnik School of Government may open more doors than MPhil at Cambridge, and again it seems that the political elite in the UK is now more from Oxford than from Cambridge. That programme at Cambridge seems to be more academic than practice-oriented and professional in this regard, and since it was established only in 2013 and accepts only about 25 students per year (compared to 120 accepted students at Oxford this year), the network is smaller and the prospects for development of the Blavatnik School are better, especially taking into consideration a higher amount of investments. So I am still thinking: perhaps I should figure out my employment options by September, and if they are good, I should rather apply for MPP to Harvard Kennedy School and Oxford next year and see what will happen next? But again, as you rightly said, I am not guaranteed a funded place at Cambrige if I am refused at Harvard and Oxford next year. I am not complaining or anything like that, I am really happy to receive a scholarship from Cambridge, I am just trying to maximise value added and thinking out loud... :smile:
am i right in believing that if I don't receive an offer from a college by June 1st, then im out from all the old, 'traditional' colleges?
I think that's what i've read on this thread. If so, then which colleges 'make up the slack' so to speak. Mind you I don't care where I end up, just so annoyed at the wait (8.5 weeks atm)
Original post by jevons
am i right in believing that if I don't receive an offer from a college by June 1st, then im out from all the old, 'traditional' colleges?
I think that's what i've read on this thread. If so, then which colleges 'make up the slack' so to speak. Mind you I don't care where I end up, just so annoyed at the wait (8.5 weeks atm)


Nope, the main point on this thread (I think) has been that there's no way to predict which college you'll end up in (after being rejected from your first choice). There's still a chance you could get into an old college, there's just no way of knowing.
Original post by Foreign GP
I am replying here to Zefiros and Josb, many thanks guys for finding time to answer my question and help me! Indeed, I plan to do as you advised and accept a funded place at Cambridge (since there are still no news about funding for Oxford). I have already accepted a scholarship. But I am still a bit worried about the quality of public policy networks at Oxford/Cambridge. Both are excellent schools, but it seems to me that the Blavatnik School of Government is more 'connected', if I can say so. So I presume the Blavatnik School of Government may open more doors than MPhil at Cambridge, and again it seems that the political elite in the UK is now more from Oxford than from Cambridge. That programme at Cambridge seems to be more academic than practice-oriented and professional in this regard, and since it was established only in 2013 and accepts only about 25 students per year (compared to 120 accepted students at Oxford this year), the network is smaller and the prospects for development of the Blavatnik School are better, especially taking into consideration a higher amount of investments. So I am still thinking: perhaps I should figure out my employment options by September, and if they are good, I should rather apply for MPP to Harvard Kennedy School and Oxford next year and see what will happen next? But again, as you rightly said, I am not guaranteed a funded place at Cambrige if I am refused at Harvard and Oxford next year. I am not complaining or anything like that, I am really happy to receive a scholarship from Cambridge, I am just trying to maximise value added and thinking out loud... :smile:


Hello,

Congratulations on your offers. Please think carefully about these options. Harvard, Cambridge and Oxford are ridiculously difficult to get into. Having a place at Cambridge with funding is a seriously big deal that nobody should take lightly.

I would advise you to take your place and join the programme at Cambridge. If you get funding to Oxford, then take your pick. MPP at Harvard Kennedy would be fantastic, but Cambridge or Oxford are also excellent places. Do not get wound down on the Alumni connection in Cambridge, Oxford
Blavatnik or Harvard Kennedy. You will be fine with whatever choice you go for.

The dangerous thing is deciding to apply next year and not getting accepted anywhere. When you have an opportunity, take it!

I wish you the very best and I hope that whatever you decide to do, that it goes well. Good luck :smile:
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Original post by Foreign GP
I am replying here to Zefiros and Josb, many thanks guys for finding time to answer my question and help me! Indeed, I plan to do as you advised and accept a funded place at Cambridge (since there are still no news about funding for Oxford). I have already accepted a scholarship. But I am still a bit worried about the quality of public policy networks at Oxford/Cambridge. Both are excellent schools, but it seems to me that the Blavatnik School of Government is more 'connected', if I can say so. So I presume the Blavatnik School of Government may open more doors than MPhil at Cambridge, and again it seems that the political elite in the UK is now more from Oxford than from Cambridge. That programme at Cambridge seems to be more academic than practice-oriented and professional in this regard, and since it was established only in 2013 and accepts only about 25 students per year (compared to 120 accepted students at Oxford this year), the network is smaller and the prospects for development of the Blavatnik School are better, especially taking into consideration a higher amount of investments. So I am still thinking: perhaps I should figure out my employment options by September, and if they are good, I should rather apply for MPP to Harvard Kennedy School and Oxford next year and see what will happen next? But again, as you rightly said, I am not guaranteed a funded place at Cambrige if I am refused at Harvard and Oxford next year. I am not complaining or anything like that, I am really happy to receive a scholarship from Cambridge, I am just trying to maximise value added and thinking out loud... :smile:


Go to Cambridge, you're funded so you have nothing to lose. You will have Cambridge on your CV and that's all that matters atm.

You've been accepted with funding in a world top 10 university. Enjoy and stop overthinking.
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They ask me the financial declaration. I have 46h to find £55,000. I already have €200. :redface:
Original post by Foreign GP
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I am not sure that you understand how rare it is to get funding for a masters at all. Getting funded by Cambridge is an advantage if you decide to apply to Oxford for DPhil.
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Has anybody already rejected their offer?
Original post by Josb
Has anybody already rejected their offer?


I think I will have to but I'm waiting until the last possible minute which for me is the 31st of August. When do you have until?
Original post by Josb
They ask me the financial declaration. I have 46h to find £55,000. I already have €200. :redface:


If you help me wash the dishes and tidy my grungy student house you could be £10 closer... :wink:

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