Sick of seeing cyclists on pavements

I actually don't get road rage. It's not worth it. When you drive round in something big and comfy these little inconveniences actually stop mattering. Driving round in a tiny little box is certainly much more stressful, though.



Why would they? Cars don't use pavements????



I'll take a few exhaust emissions over stinky cyclists, thanks!



Strawman.




Horses? I live in a rural area they are everywhere. I think it's pretty irresponsible to take a creature like that out on the road when it's got it's own free will. They are totally unpredictable and I've seen them do all sorts of strange things.
The law says you can take them out on the road, but you take a gamble with your life.

I'm also a biker - I accept when I go out on a bike I take a gamble with my life. That's the risk you take, though.

Buses - peasant trucks. Buy a car.

Pedestrians on roads without pavements... depends on the road. Motorway / Duel carriageway etc - don't be there.
Country roads... no problem. Walk against traffic as per highway code to protect yourself.

I think for the most part people do cooperate. You don't have to love something to cooperate or even tolerate it do you?





High insurance? Really? £189 fully comp pal. That's for the year not per month!

You sound like a lovely fella.

Or not...

High insurance? Really? £189 fully comp pal. That's for the year not per month!

What exactly do you object to?

Why would they? Cars don't use pavements????

Lowest quote I can get is £6000, third party only pal. Not everyone can afford a car, hence why they cycle.

When emerging from driveways. They only expect pedestrians which will be moving slowly and will hear cars more easily. A bike can easily do 15mph, whereas people will tend to walk at less than 5mph.

Regards the low insurance premium, aren't you a little old for TSR??

Until we get Dutch style cyclist routes, I don't think cyclist can truly be safe on our roads.

I reckon the old chestnut problem of bikes on pavements (which is actually mainly annoying rather than dangerous) will continue until we make reasonable provision for cyclists. For reasonable provision...include Dutch style engineering (way ahead of even our best facilities), proper speed enforcement on the roads, a Dutch style law to protect cyclists on the road...and simply a new, Dutch-style respect for our fellow human beings. Yes..essentially contract out our local transport infrastructure to Holland and all will be well! In Holland it's obvious...sail before steam!

I think the UK is becoming gradually more bike friendly anyway but it's soooo slow! Meantime we're all getting bad tempered and unfit!

You guys seen this video on the Dutch cycle lanes?

http://www.wimp.com/cyclepaths/

I really miss Amsterdam and the constant cycling. I just don't feel as safe on English roads.

You guys seen this video on the Dutch cycle lanes?

http://www.wimp.com/cyclepaths/

I really miss Amsterdam and the constant cycling. I just don't feel as safe on English roads.

The amount of damage I can do to myself or a pedestrian on a pavement is negligible compared to what a car can do to me while on the road.

Cyclists should be banned from roads. They are a danger to themselves and other road users.

Would love to cycle in Holland! I was in Germany for a wee while and everyone cycled everywhere... It was a completely different culture and the attitudes were so different - it was so fun and so relaxing to cycle there!


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So are motorists.