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3x^3+21x^2+36x=0

What's the quickest most efficient way to tackle this problem?

Is it possible without the use of forulas?

EDIT: wrote question incorrectly
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by Abdul-Karim
3x^2+21x^2+36x=0




You have two terms in x squared - did you mean that?
Original post by Abdul-Karim
3x^2+21x^2+36x=0

What's the quickest most efficient way to tackle this problem?

Is it possible without the use of forulas?



combine the two x2x^2 terms and take out a common factor of x.
That is assuming you have written the question correctly.
Original post by brianeverit
combine the two x2x^2 terms and take out a common factor of x.
That is assuming you have written the question correctly.


My bad, I re-edited OP.

Original post by ghostwalker
You have two terms in x squared - did you mean that?


As above.
3x3+21x2+36x=03x^{3} + 21x^{2} + 36x=0
Take a factor of 3x and then be inspection you can see one root is x=0.
You should be able to do the rest by factorising, I shouldn't really give the full solution. Think about what numbers add to give 7 and multiply to give 12.

Obviously this method doesn't always work as you don't always get a combination of number that facilitates a nice factorisation and there is no coefficient of x^{0} in this example. The quadratic formula always works and is quick to use once you've got a lot of practice with it. There is a cubic formula too, but I wouldn't both learning it as it is very long from what I remember. I don't remember too much of what I was taught about solving cubics, but often finding a factor of the form (x+a) where a is any real number (usually an integer) is a great start as it splits the cubic into a linear equation multiplied by a quadratic equation which is much more manageable. Another approach is to test small numbers such as x=+/-1, x=+/-2 and see if they work. If they "x=a" is a solution then you can pull a factor of (x-a) out of the cubic. You'll have to do polynomial division for this, but like most computations in maths the more you do them the quicker they get.
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by Abdul-Karim
3x^3+21x^2+36x=0

What's the quickest most efficient way to tackle this problem?

Is it possible without the use of forulas?

EDIT: wrote question incorrectly


3x3+21x2+36x=3x(x2+7x+12)3x^3 + 21x^2 + 36x = 3x(x^2 + 7x + 12)

The quadratic factorises into 2 brackets quite easily
Take 3x out and then you have a simple equation.
Original post by TenOfThem
3x3+21x2+36x=3x(x2+7x+12)3x^3 + 21x^2 + 36x = 3x(x^2 + 7x + 12)

The quadratic factorises into 2 brackets quite easily


From this:

3x(x^2+3x+4x+12)

Within the brackets:

x(x+3)+4(x+3)
= (x+4)(x+3)

So altogher according to your initial input: 3x((x+4)(x+3)) = 0

Am I heading in the right direction
Original post by Abdul-Karim
From this:

3x(x^2+3x+4x+12)

Within the brackets:

x(x+3)+4(x+3)
= (x+4)(x+3)

So altogher according to your initial input: 3x((x+4)(x+3)) = 0

Am I heading in the right direction


yes that is fine
Original post by TenOfThem
yes that is fine


What can I do from that to get my values?

I get that without the 3x, the values would've be x=-4 and x=-3
Original post by Abdul-Karim
What can I do from that to get my values?

I get that without the 3x, the values would've be x=-4 and x=-3


Do you know why -4 and -3 are possible answers?

The purpose of factorising is because ab=0 means that a or b = 0

Similarly abc = 0 means that a, b, or c must = 0
Original post by Manitude
3x3+21x2+36x=03x^{3} + 21x^{2} + 36x=0




The forum guidelines ask us not to give full solutions
Original post by TenOfThem
Do you know why -4 and -3 are possible answers?

The purpose of factorising is because ab=0 means that a or b = 0

Similarly abc = 0 means that a, b, or c must = 0


So are those the answers or.. I'm not quite following
Original post by Abdul-Karim
So are those the answers or.. I'm not quite following


Do you understand why they are 2 of the answers?
Original post by TenOfThem
Do you understand why they are 2 of the answers?


Well yeah.. but I discounted the 3x when I got those answers

3x((x+4)(x+3)) = 0

(x+4)(x+3) = 0

x=-4
x=-3

to balance it out
Original post by TenOfThem
The forum guidelines ask us not to give full solutions


Fair point, I'll remove the specifics then.
Original post by Abdul-Karim
Well yeah.. but I discounted the 3x when I got those answers

3x((x+4)(x+3)) = 0

(x+4)(x+3) = 0

x=-4
x=-3

to balance it out


What do you mean by "discounted the 3x" ?

What do you mean by "balance it out" ?

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