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Should women and society be worried about men dropping out?

You have perhaps heard of Dr Helen Smith's book, Men on Strike, which describes how men are dropping out of their traditional roles in society.

In Japan, there is a growing movement of "Herbivore" men who aren't interested in marrying or having families. The West has "MGTOWs" - men who go their own way, forgoing the expectations society places on them and doing whatever the hell they want - in particular avoiding marriage and hence the absolute cluster**** that is divorce in the West.

I read a very interesting blog post, Guys Opting Out Of The Game, where there are lots of commenters saying they are no longer interested in dealing with women's bull****. There's another interesting post from a few years back, Yes Men Do Leave The Market, with similar tales.

The age of first marriage continues rising and the marriage rate continues dropping. With hypergamous women becoming ever more educated and successful, our generation will have the greatest ever number of women who cannot find husbands due to a lack of higher status men. Meanwhile men are increasingly aware that marriage is a terrible deal for men in the West.

As Dalrock pointed out, women are weakening the signal that used to tell men they need to work hard, be responsible, and prepare to financially support a family. Society has created a generation of Peter-Pan man-boys, more interested in porn, computer games, or casual sex rather than leading a family.

Incentives drive human behaviour. Feminism and the sexual revolution is responsible for this breakdown of the family, and disincentivising men from working hard to become good providers and protectors of families. Why sacrifice and work hard when the only women who want to get married are post-their-prime unfeminine women, who had been banged for free when they were younger, hotter and tighter? :rolleyes:

Anyway: Should women and society be worried about men dropping out?

Gentlemen - I will see you poolside as we enjoy the decline. Or overseas where feminine, family-oriented young women can still be found. :biggrin:

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Reply 1

lucaf

If you need women as an incentive to try and be successful then that is just sad. Although the fact you used the phrase "leading a family" sort of says it all.

Reply 2

TornadoGR4

If you decide to get married for the right reasons then nothing you've said would even matter.

Reply 3

Heartiste

Original post by lucaf

If you need women as an incentive to try and be successful then that is just sad. Although the fact you used the phrase "leading a family" sort of says it all.

Masculine men put their mission above their woman. However, providing for a family has been a significant motivation for men throughout history.

Furthermore, the masculine man is inspired by a feminine woman. Compare and contrast how inspired you feel by the pretty, young feminine woman vs the angry feminist below.

Reply 4

SickBrah

Heartiste - Poster of the year!

Love the contrasting pictures.

Although I think you're wrong, the western countries will just replace the men who drop out with workers from foreign countries. The women who can't find men will just have babies from sperm banks.

There is also a chance they will start cracking down on men who drop out, through taxation, making it harder to move capital abroad, make it harder to bring women to the west etc.

They will really struggle if they can''t attract foreign workers. This would be a disaster for them.

Those in power do not like these thoughts and they will stop them at all costs.

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Reply 5

lucaf

Original post by Heartiste

If you need a woman to inspire you to not be a loser you are not masculine you are pathetic. Seriously, if women not needing you to provide for them takes away your lifes purpose then you have absolutely no self respect.

And yeah sure, all feminists are unattractive and unfeminine :rolleyes:

Reply 6

ilem

There are so many things much more interesting than chasing sex/relationships, hardly a surprise when the onus for initiation rests almost entirely on men. It's a waste of time compared to having fun with your mates or expanding your mind or cultivating a hobby of some sort.