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Prince George's education - Eton, Cambridge, Sandhurst..

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Original post by clh_hilary
They call themselves 'Less Than Oxford'.


I meant Oxford students - d'oh :getmecoat: :facepalm:
Original post by Nathanielle
Yeah, probably the low entry requirements on their website back then were a lie. And research performance and the entry requirements for undergraduates are two different cup of teas.


Not entirely, they're actually directly related. Is it any coincidence that ex-polys get paid comparatively little in terms of research income when compared with Oxbridge or the rest of the Russell Group? And besides, entry requirements advertised are the MINIMUM and 90% exceed that book amount.
Original post by Arsenalforlifee
I meant Oxford students - d'oh :getmecoat: :facepalm:


We call ourselves by our names and our relationship with HM The Queen. Like The Rt Hon David Cameron, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom who's maam's fifth cousin twice removed.
Original post by colourtheory
Not entirely, they're actually directly related. Is it any coincidence that ex-polys get paid comparatively little in terms of research income when compared with Oxbridge or the rest of the Russell Group? And besides, entry requirements advertised are the MINIMUM and 90% exceed that book amount.

Ex-Polys have not a long history of research, so it is difficult for them to build up the ties and references and projects to get that money. Alone building up the facilities costs a lot. I still don't get the relation between research and undergraduates, who never get a foot into a lab in a lot of courses, at an ex-poly or not.

Looking at TSR, there are allways people who got accepted despite having gotten worse results than exspected, also at good universities.
Cam got burned when they let Edward in to Jesus on dubious grades, they won't mistake the same one again. And the idea King's of all colleges would take him is hilarious.

I suspect they'll send him to day in London, Paul's if he's bright enough.
Original post by Edminzodo
I think he'll go to Westminster or somewhere not as fancy as Eton.

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Westminster isn't exactly far behind in terms of fanciness.
Reply 66
Hope he smokes weed with his uncle.
This is relevant:

Royal family qualifications (O-Levels/GCSEs, A-Levels, Degree)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531553/The-family-qualifications.html
Why are we discussing the future education of a baby? For all we know, he could have severe learning difficulties.
What happens if he just doesn't turn out that bright?
Original post by Protagoras
=*Point* Eton is known for its king scholars who then went on to King's College, University of Cambridge.

*Point* Would it really be that bad if George did that exact process and went onto King's Cambridge to study History or possibly Geography and Politics / International Relations.

The Kings Scholarship is a fee waiver scheme for the bright but (ostensibly) hard up, not scholarships for people who will become king. Before the 20th century it was considered beneath such people to actually attend schools, rather than receiving personal tuition. Today, the socialisation is considered more important than actual education.

Judging by the past record the royals are not exceptionally bright and their expensive educations don't make them so. They are, however, quite dedicated and hard working. Sandhurst is the right place for them.

Chief Wiggum
Ed Miliband got into Oxford with AABB. (I'm sure there are plenty of others, he was the first one I checked.) David Miliband got into Oxford with BBBD. Both of these cases were much more recent that Prince Charles.

To be fair his father manipulated some kind of widening access scheme to get them in, which they technically qualified for as he had sent them to state schools for ideological reasons. Not so different to the heir apparent twice removed being sent to Eton.
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Original post by Protagoras
I wasn't sure where to put this thread but I guessed that those that read the UK politics forum might give some good answers plus I couldn't think of anywhere else than here or in chat!

So living in the UK you can't escape that we have a monarchy. People say that the monarchy and the aristocracy have privileges in life that others don't get but most of them work towards something mostly government.

I know that Princes William and Harry went to Eton College (school of rich, powerful and connected).

William went on to St. Andrews in Scotland to first study history of art where he met Kate Middleton then switched to geography. Then onto Sandhurst and into the armed forces.

Harry skipped university and went next to Sandhurst, the Royal Military Academy.

So.. as the future king of the united kingdom I was thinking about the obvious early career that prince George is going to have.

It is highly likely he will go to Eton College.

*Point* Eton is known for its king scholars who then went on to King's College, University of Cambridge.

*Point* Would it really be that bad if George did that exact process and went onto King's Cambridge to study History or possibly Geography and Politics / International Relations.

The monarchy are supposed to set a high standard for society and this to me sets him up for the life that he will have: diplomacy, IR, government.

So should George have the extraordinary education for someone predestined for a certain role in the world?


Chances are he'll be bloody influential in the future. It's in our best interest for someone in such a powerful position to get the best education. If it means Eton & Cambridge then so be it. If it means a state comp and an apprenticeship then that's great too.
Original post by clh_hilary
They call themselves 'Less Than Oxford'.


Looking at the most recent QS rankings it's probably more apt for Oxford students to call themselves 'Less than Cambridge, Imperial and UCL'
Original post by St. Brynjar
Looking at the most recent QS rankings it's probably more apt for Oxford students to call themselves 'Less than Cambridge, Imperial and UCL'


:kungfu:
Original post by St. Brynjar
Looking at the most recent QS rankings it's probably more apt for Oxford students to call themselves 'Less than Cambridge, Imperial and UCL'


Times and your Vice-Chancellor beg to differ, my little Tab buddy. :cool:

Also, it's just undeniable that without us filthy Oxonians, Cambridge would never have existed. :colondollar:
Original post by clh_hilary

Also, it's just undeniable that without us filthy Oxonians, Cambridge would never have existed. :colondollar:


Yes, we owe you thanks, as you were undoubtedly directly responsible... :wink:

And note that the VC was referring to sport...
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Original post by subjunctivehistorian
If he applies to Cambridge through UCAS and gets in on his own merit i.e. A*AA then yes.
If he just gets in because he's Prince George, then no. Just like it was unfair and immoral when Prince Charles went to Cambridge. People from working class backgrounds fight to get in, they stress so much over it... for someone to get in simply because of who he is... no.

As do people from middle-class and upper-class backgrounds. Prince William aside, everyone works hard to get into uni.
Original post by Viceroy
Yes, we owe you thanks, as you were undoubtedly directly responsible... :wink:

And note that the VC was referring to sport...


He didn't comment on the academics so there's no way of knowing his views, but he explicitly said Cambridge is not as good as Oxford in the only item he's commented on. :redface:
Original post by gladders
What's wrong with studying agriculture?


Well, for one, it was a course created specifically for Prince William. Cambridge don't normally offer it. But also, it's not... shall we say, as rigorous as some other degrees out there.
Original post by Nathanielle
Prince William did a 10 weeks professional course. To be admitted you need money and usually at least a 2:1, some professional experience => WHICH HE HAS! Even if he would have applied for a Master degree, his 2:1 from his undergraduate would fulfill the basic requirements. As soon as it comes to postgraduate, no one looks at your A Levels. Your A Levels are not the be and all end.
And some years ago St. Andrews had much lower entry requirements, so it was not unfair.


I still hold to the view that, if Prince William and Charles had gone to normal/below average state schools, they would not have got into such good universities.
If they hadn't been in the royal family they'd probably have ended up stacking shelves, to be honest.

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