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Inverse function URGENT!!!!!

Hi can anyone help me with this inverse question please, this is what I've done so far

ImageUploadedByStudent Room1413550368.769142.jpg

I just don't know where to go from here.

Much appreciated :smile:


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Could you try multiplying the fraction by 1+ex1 + e^x? (completing the square)
Original post by puddinboy
Hi can anyone help me with this inverse question please, this is what I've done so far

ImageUploadedByStudent Room1413550368.769142.jpg

I just don't know where to go from here.

Much appreciated :smile:


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As sarcasmrules implies, substitute u=e^x and solve for u.
Original post by Smaug123
As sarcasmrules implies, substitute u=e^x and solve for u.

Why would you need to substitute u=exu = e^x?
Reply 4
Original post by puddinboy
Hi can anyone help me with this inverse question please, this is what I've done so far

ImageUploadedByStudent Room1413550368.769142.jpg

I just don't know where to go from here.

Much appreciated :smile:


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This looked quite an easy question to start with until I tried it ...

I managed to get a rearrangement but this yields plus or minus which
implies the function is not one to one. It is defined for x>0 but it is neither increasing or decreasing.


Do you have the printed version?
Reply 5
do as both the posters above suggested, so when you group everything on the side where e2xe^{2x} is +ve,

you will have a disguised quadratic in exe^{x}

i.e something of the form (ex)2+p(ex)+q=0(e^{x})^{2}+p(e^{x})+q=0 , p and q both functions of y

solve this for e^x with the quadratic formula, noting that you can only have ONE solution, since for the discriminant, y has to be greater than or equal to....

(try differentiating - if you dare! and take the numerator as=0, then plug into H(x) and see what you get)

then take logs

(EDIT)
(edited 9 years ago)
Reply 6
Original post by Hasufel
do as both the posters above suggested, so when you group everything on the side where e2xe^{2x} is +ve,

you will have a disguised quadratic in exe^{x}

i.e something of the form (ex)2+p(ex)+q=0(e^{x})^{2}+p(e^{x})+q=0

solve this for e^x with the quadratic formula, noting that you can only have ONE solution, since for the discriminant, y has to be greater than....

then take logs


he is probably attempting this now but what about the domain?

this is not a one to one function.
Reply 7
Original post by TeeEm
he is probably attempting this now but what about the domain?

this is not a one to one function.


Hmm...you're right!....
Reply 8
Original post by Hasufel
Hmm...you're right!....


domain would be, for the inverse, the minimum point for the H(x), as corresponding to the x value below this, the inverse function is undefined (when you solve you get the horrible root thing, then for domain , set = 1 and solve ***since ln(1) is undefined) - this has the same value as the minumum point for H(x)

*** for this bit, i cheated and used Maple, but for the differentiation of H(x) itself, i did it by hand and got the same answer.

Naturally, then if the range of H is greater than or equal to this, the domain of the inverse has to be as well.
(edited 9 years ago)
Reply 9
Original post by Hasufel
domain would be, for the inverse, the minimum point for the H(x), as below this, the inverse function is undefined (when you solve you get the horrible root thing, then for domain , set = 1 and solve ***since ln(1) is undefined) - this has the same value as the minumum point for H(x)

*** for this bit, i cheated and used Maple, but for the differentiation, i did it by hand and got the same answer.



Original post by puddinboy
Hi can anyone help me with this inverse question please, this is what I've done so far

ImageUploadedByStudent Room1413550368.769142.jpg

I just don't know where to go from here.

Much appreciated :smile:


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this is a good question and I am going to steal it and adapt it ...
The hints and ideas of the previous "TSR posters" are sensible.

I will supply an answer (hopefully correct) for you to check.

ANSWER TO FUNCTION INVERSE, NO SOLUTION.pdf
you say "TSR posters" like it`s a bad smell...:smile:
Reply 11
Original post by Hasufel
you say "TSR posters" like it`s a bad smell...:smile:


sorry but I am not up to date with the forum language.
TSR users or TSR helpers maybe better
Original post by TeeEm
sorry but I am not up to date with the forum language.
TSR users or TSR helpers maybe better


it`s all good! - was just having a chuckle!!

you could use the "Sloth" approach from the Goonies - "Hey, you guuuuys!"
(edited 9 years ago)
Reply 13
Original post by Hasufel
it`s all good! - was just having a chuckle!!

you could use the "Sloth" approach from the Goonies - "Hey, you guuuuys!"


many thanks

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