I voted UKIP, and I don't feel bad about it.

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So many utter idiots on here. They are losers who have failed at life and so blame their problems on others.26% of NHS doctors are foreign born. The BMA advised that without immigrants "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care.Almost 5.5 million British people live abroad. It's funny, I seen a poll the other day where 52% agreed that british people should be free to live and work anywhere in the eu. 36% of the same people agreed that citizens of other EU countries should have the right to live and work in the uk.Oh and to top it off immigrants are 60% less likely to claim benefits than a british-born person. (you know, probably due to the fact they're doing the **** jobs the over-entitled fools here don't even want to do).and between 1995-2011, eu immigrants contributed 8.8 billion more than they gained

This guy!

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Snufkin

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Original post by Maid Marian

Nah that's the same list I read. I support about 75% of those. :yy:

Which ones and why?

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Maid Marian

Original post by Samual

Which ones and why?

I'm really not interested enough in politics to do a big post analysing their policies.

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Snufkin

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Original post by Maid Marian

I'm really not interested enough in politics to do a big post analysing their policies.

It worries me that there are increasing numbers of young people who are willing to blindly vote UKIP without taking the time to think about what their policies actually mean. :facepalm2:

Reply 64

blondelocks

Original post by Maid Marian

UKIP!

I was always scared to tell people at school that I supported UKIP because I would have been hated for it.

It's definitely possible you'd be hated for being incredibly ignorant. UKIP want to scrap paid maternity leave and make it legal to discriminate on the basis of gender... And I hope that you haven't heard the sort of comments coming from the mouths of a significant number of their candidates on issues such as rape, pregnant women in the workplace etc. because that would make your support for UKIP even more unfathomable.

Wake up guys! These people are total anathema to a progressive society. Immigration is really only an issue due to the capacity of our tiny island and for no other reason! Immigrants aren't taking your jobs and robbing your grandparents any more than the local chavs down the road. And aside from immigration/EU UKIP literally stand for whatever suits them best. That is, they change their mind every ****ing week in accordance with popular opinion!

Speaking of popularity... the BBC have exposed themselves as being pro-UKIP in the past few months. Not once have I witnessed a BBC correspondent put forth a set of genuinely challenging questions on policy to any UKIP member let alone Farage who they seem to absolutely adore and smother with superficial *******s in order to make him look like a 'man of the people'. Absolutely embarrassing.

Reply 65

Maid Marian

Original post by blondelocks

Erm, where on earth did you get that from?

Reply 66

blondelocks

Original post by Maid Marian

Erm, where on earth did you get that from?

I would have sent you here http://www.ukipeastsussex.com/common-sense-policies/small-business/.... but they removed it. See my above post about how they put forth potential policies (their views) and suddenly change their minds in order maintain their popularity.

Reply 67

fat_hobbit

Original post by Tom_Ford

Why does the media seem to insist that we that vote for UKIP are all racists/extremists? I hate the EU , I want Britain out of it. Is that so bad and racist?

So did I.

Reply 68

Hkvsjvf26

With idiots like the OP in Britain, it makes the rest of us feel 100x smarter :biggrin:

So go ahead lad, vote UKIP for as many years as you want.

Ignorance is bliss, 'Oh we hate the EU and we want to cap/stop immigration', you have NO CLUE about any of their other policies. If you did and had enough brain cells as I have fingers, then you wouldn't be voting for them.

:facepalm2:

Reply 69

barneysamuel

Original post by Samual

It worries me that there are increasing numbers of young people who are willing to blindly vote UKIP without taking the time to think about what their policies actually mean. :facepalm2:

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Why do you think you can dictate everyone's thoughts? If you agree with what UKIP plans to do, then you are welcome to vote for them, you have no right to tell people what to do. The policies UKIP present are that of common sense and throw political correctness out the window and to a lot of people that is EXTREMELY refreshing! So please try not to sound so upset that people think differently. :smile:

Reply 70

IzzyRoseSmith

Original post by barneysamuel

I dont think they are trying to dictate peoples thoughts, they are just saying how they are worried about people choosing to vote for something they do not fully understand. I agree that everyone should be able to be able to choose who/what they want as long as they know the full extent of what it stands for.

Reply 71

MrSuavetopia

Original post by Maid Marian

I'm really not interested enough in politics to do a big post analysing their policies.

Yet you care enough to vote for them? If you aren't interested why vote at all?

Original post by Samual

It worries me that there are increasing numbers of young people who are willing to blindly vote UKIP without taking the time to think about what their policies actually mean. :facepalm2:

PRSOM.

Reply 72

dannyscott7

The amount of tripe being perpetuated against UKIP in this thread is unpalatable. Get your facts right before making blind accusations. Attempting to uphold moral superiority based on lies and unfounded opinions is pathetic and instead of making you appear intelligent, it is overridden by your willful or unconscious ignorance.

To be fair, the OP's views are a little extreme against immigrants.

No but I find it odd to vote for a party over one issue. What other policies of theirs do you like?

Why is it odd? The number one issue facing people in this country is immigration. It has recently overtaken the economy. Subsequently this leaves people with only one viable option. A party that actually plans to DO something about it.

UKIP is, as a whole, a one issue party. The people who are so obsessed with one issue that they'll vote for a whole party based on it are those who are likely to have extreme and bizarre views, racism is probably one of those.

Essentially your saying up to 31% of people that plan to vote 'have extreme and bizarre views, racism is probably one of those.' Well done. That is clearly factual.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/25/nearly-third-of-voters-prepared-to-support-ukip

If you want Britain out of the EU, vote the conservatives who have promised a referendum on the EU

Hahaha. Do you know why it is proposed at the end of 2017? It's because legislation gets passed in March 2017 that would only allow the UK to have a referendum if all other EU members states agree. Not happening. Another lie from our leaders that care so much about us.

So many utter idiots on here. They are losers who have failed at life and so blame their problems on others.26% of NHS doctors are foreign born.

Once again, so up to 31% of people planning to vote are 'utter idiots' and have 'failed at life'. Do you realise how utterly pathetic and condescending you sound.

What's your point? UKIP would allow these people into the country as they clearly have skills that we NEED. Just because we want to CONTROL immigration doesn't mean we are AGAINST immigration. We used to let in around 50,000 a year and lately it has been up to 500,000.

UKIP supporters are deemed idiotic and ignorant on the whole. And yes, a significant number of UKIP supports are racist. You have to be naive to deny that.

Nigel Farage is intelligent but his party is full of bigoted idiots. Having that lot run our nation would be a nightmare.

Keep telling yourself that. It's people like you that drive people to UKIP. You know, some people that listen to this kind of drivel will actually go and find out how things really are and consequently end up backing UKIP. I'd advise you to think of something else because it isn't working. UKIP support is currently at 25% and rising.

Privatisation of the NHS, legalisation of handguns, rejection of climate change, increased military spending, shut the door on EU immigrants, privatisation of the education system etc. etc.

I don't mean to insult people who mean to vote UKIP but they are extremely ignorant, I mean unless they've seen the manifesto the rest of us haven't and it includes none of the afore mentioned ideas that is.

Your the ignorant one. It seems you can't differentiate between falsities and realities. Labour initiated the privatization of the NHS through PFI contracts in 1999. It has been going on ever since. UKIP is the only party that is AGAINST further PFI contracts and oppose the ever creeping TTIP deal.

Like I've already explained this 'shutting the door' argument is non-factual. I can't believe people actually think UKIP want to stop ALL immigration. Not even the BNP want to do that.

'privatisation of the education system etc. etc.' - your actually making it up as you go along! It reeks of desperation. Unlike you, I don't make things up about other parties, I just speak the truth.

The irony of UKIP is that their supporters, other than their financial backers, are invariably the ones who would be worst hit by their economic ideals.

Quantify this.

I know plenty of UKIP polices and can go through them in detail. I've been a member for a year and recently went to the annual conference.

I'm voting for UKIP because I believe we should live in a country that has pride in itself, is open and tolerant, but also dictates it's own laws and puts it's own people before outsiders. Along with having a sensible immigration policy. Much like a lot of other countries in the world that are outside the EU.

I can't remember the last time I logged into this site but I simply had to reply to this thread.

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Reply 73

Jamie Wheat

I am a UKIP supporter,

In a nut shell.

To address the immigration issues, I am not against immigration at all. What I am against is uncontrolled immigration from the freedom of movement of citizens in Europe. We need good immigration for the economy. Good immigration meaning bringing in people who specialise in a certain skill which the UK economy needs where there isn't enough supply within the UK work force. Unskilled workers put pressure on the welfare systems and unskilled labor markets.

I agree there shouldn't be an inheritance tax.

I agree with a flat tax rate as that rewards people for wanting to do something with there lives as opposed to holding them back via taxation fears. With the rich having more money, they can use this money to create new businesses and ultimately increase employment which will help reduce the pressure on welfare.

A lot of you do not understand that country is in big trouble. We are in masses of debt trying to keep the every day citizen of the UK living beyond their means. Were not even paying off this debt yet, it's just getting larger and larger. The country will eventually default.

The EU is unsustainable, small economies like Greece and Portugal cannot adjust to their own economies needs as they have no central bank, without the ability to print endless amounts of money which is known as QE.

You are living in a dream world which will come crashing down in a financial meltdown. We need to focus on the global economy and not just Europe.

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Reply 74

perfectsymbology

I voted UKIP and all I got was a lousy t-shirt.

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Snufkin

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Original post by dannyscott7

The number one issue facing people in this country is immigration. It has recently overtaken the economy. Subsequently this leaves people with only one viable option. A party that actually plans to DO something about it.

I can't be bothered to deal with the rest of your post and I don't accept that immigration is the number one issue. But let's assume for a second you're right, do you seriously think it is worth screwing up our economy just to appease a largely ignorant public? And don't bother replying with that claptrap about us being richer outside the EU, that is total BS. When it comes down to it, would you be prepended to suffer indefinite financial hardship just to kick out the immigrants?

Reply 76

Diabolomenthe

You should feel like absolute crap, you have committed the greatest sin of all: supporting the devil (Nigel Farage)... But seriously the EU is a good thing and immigration is hardly our biggest problem, anyone who thinks that clearly shouldn't be making an important decision such a voting, because after all there are real problems this country has to deal with and people are just trying to shift the blame of these problems as a country onto foreigners- complete bigotry if you ask me!!

Reply 77

hrmpurser

Original post by Tom_Ford

Why does the media seem to insist that we that vote for UKIP are all racists/extremists? I hate the EU , I want Britain out of it. Is that so bad and racist?

Germany started off like this before ww2. Hitler gaining small pockets of popularity until he became chancellor and ****ed the country so bad. So good job for supporting the English Hitler.

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Reply 78

Ollie231213

Original post by barneysamuel

Hi there,

I'm unsure of who I will vote for in the next election but the reasons UKIP have for the suggestions they propose are actually quite valid. They are stopping the further development of wind farms as there has been absolutely no sigh of global warming for the last 15 years. Smoking will only be brought back into pubs if the landlord/lady thinks it will benefit their business by bringing more people in because of the ability to smoke. The pubs will have a choice though. Cheap beer is never a bad thing and people will also still have the choice to smoke.
Leaving the EU will save such a vast amount of money there is no way the increased export and import taxes would outweigh the savings.
Just some of the reasons I am thinking about voting UKIP.

Greetings,

First of all, your claim that "there has been absolutely no sigh of global warming for the last 15 years" is absolutely UNTRUE.

If you are going to make a claim which contradicts the views held by the vast majority of climate scientists, at least cite your source. If it's anything other than a scientific journal or reputable scientific website, then it's not worth taking any notice of.

Secondly, one benefit of the smoking ban is that it makes smoking less glamorous. Seeing a load of people having to stand in the cold outside a pub makes it look less attractive, so less people will be inclined to take it up. If less people take it up, fewer people will suffer from smoking-related illnesses and will put less pressure of health services.

Thirdly, leaving the EU could me damaging to trade and relations with other European nations, as well as giving us no say on European matters and pushing us off the World stage.

People are understandably fed up with the current and previous government but too many are being tricked in to thinking that UKIP are this magical wonderful party who will sort everything out and make Britain a heavenly place.

They see policies like leaving the EU, increasing funding for front-line policing, etc., and they think "Yeah! Less immigrants and less crime! Great ideas!"

Yet they fail to consider the possible negative side effects that these things could have.

I saw a UKIP voter being interviewed on the TV, and he was asked why he supported UKIP, and he said: "I like Nigel Farage because he's just like a bloke down the pub!"

Sorry, but I don't want the bloke down the pub to run the sodding country!! :rolleyes: