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Universities do not regard Sociology as a "soft" A-Level

With the exception of one Cambridge college...
http://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/entry-requirements/academic/subjects
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/basc/prospective/application/alevels
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/undergraduate/policies/alevel
http://www.york.ac.uk/healthsciences/midwifery/academic-subjects/

Yes, I do take Sociology, along with English Literature, English Language and AS-Level Maths. I admit, it is considerably less challenging than my other three, but from what I can see, it will NOT hinder a university application to a RG/Redbrick university.

Furthermore, statistics lie. Yes, a greater proportion of 'hard' A Levels are accepted by top universities, but have you thought about this? Schools/ colleges put 'less able' students onto 'soft' courses like Sociology, and people do it thinking it will be a doss. However, come results day, they get bad grades, and are in no position to apply to top unis.

I cite the 2013 results statistics: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/over/stat_pdf/AQA-A-LEVEL-RESULTS-STATISTICS-JUNE-2013.PDF

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Original post by jambojim97
With the exception of one Cambridge college...
http://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/entry-requirements/academic/subjects
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/basc/prospective/application/alevels
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/undergraduate/policies/alevel
http://www.york.ac.uk/healthsciences/midwifery/academic-subjects/

Yes, I do take Sociology, along with English Literature, English Language and AS-Level Maths. I admit, it is considerably less challenging than my other three, but from what I can see, it will NOT hinder a university application to a RG/Redbrick university.

Furthermore, statistics lie. Yes, a greater proportion of 'hard' A Levels are accepted by top universities, but have you thought about this? Schools/ colleges put 'less able' students onto 'soft' courses like Sociology, and people do it thinking it will be a doss. However, come results day, they get bad grades, and are in no position to apply to top unis.

I cite the 2013 results statistics: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/over/stat_pdf/AQA-A-LEVEL-RESULTS-STATISTICS-JUNE-2013.PDF


i wanted to take sociology along with biology , chemistry and maths with the hopes of applying to med school but everyone shot me down saying i will disadvantage my self by taking sociology especially for med school :frown: they said to take something more respected and academic but i thought sociology links in really well with medicine
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Original post by Humzaawan123
i wanted to take sociology along with biology , chemistry and maths with the hopes of applying to med school but everyone shot me down saying i will disadvantage my self by taking sociology especially for med school :frown: they said to take something more respected and academic but i thought sociology links in really well with medicine


For medicine, Biology and Chemistry are a MUST. The other two subjects can be anything you want, as long as they don't have a practical or vocational bias like Media or Travel and Tourism (they are on medical school blacklists!).

There are loads of myths around medical school subject requirements, such as "you need maths", and "you need to take all sciences". In reality, that is not true.

What you DO need is Biology and Chemistry, a high UKCAT score, good GCSEs, and tons of relevant work experience.
Generally speaking, your other two subjects dont mean jack ****.

A bit of anecdotal evidence for you: I know someone studying Biology, Chemistry, Law. They've got offers. Don't worry.
Original post by Humzaawan123
i wanted to take sociology along with biology , chemistry and maths with the hopes of applying to med school but everyone shot me down saying i will disadvantage my self by taking sociology especially for med school :frown: they said to take something more respected and academic but i thought sociology links in really well with medicine

Well you're already studying 3 great A levels so 1 useless one couldn't harm your chances.
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Original post by SuperiorGenius
Well you're already studying 3 great A levels so 1 useless one couldn't harm your chances.


Although if it was me, I would probably do psychology because it is slightly more relevant to medicine. But that's not to say you'll be at a disadvantage if you take it.
Original post by jambojim97
Although if it was me, I would probably do psychology because it is slightly more relevant to medicine. But that's not to say you'll be at a disadvantage if you take it.

Physics would be the most useful tbh.
Original post by Humzaawan123
i wanted to take sociology along with biology , chemistry and maths with the hopes of applying to med school but everyone shot me down saying i will disadvantage my self by taking sociology especially for med school :frown: they said to take something more respected and academic but i thought sociology links in really well with medicine


Original post by jambojim97
For medicine, Biology and Chemistry are a MUST. The other two subjects can be anything you want, as long as they don't have a practical or vocational bias like Media or Travel and Tourism (they are on medical school blacklists!).

There are loads of myths around medical school subject requirements, such as "you need maths", and "you need to take all sciences". In reality, that is not true.

What you DO need is Biology and Chemistry, a high UKCAT score, good GCSEs, and tons of relevant work experience.
Generally speaking, your other two subjects dont mean jack ****.

A bit of anecdotal evidence for you: I know someone studying Biology, Chemistry, Law. They've got offers. Don't worry.


Original post by SuperiorGenius
Well you're already studying 3 great A levels so 1 useless one couldn't harm your chances.


Original post by jambojim97
Although if it was me, I would probably do psychology because it is slightly more relevant to medicine. But that's not to say you'll be at a disadvantage if you take it.


Original post by SuperiorGenius
Physics would be the most useful tbh.


thank you , i think i am going to do economics even though i would have preferred sociology i am just too scared that i will be disadvantaged , i mean if there were 2 applicants with the same amount of work experience and similar quality personal statements but one had sociology and one had economics. The one with eco would be favoured , i am just scared of being hindered by my subject choice. I know i really want to do a essay based subject as my 4th , have any suggestions ?
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We've kind of gone off on a tangent here.
What Cambridge college? :awesome:

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Original post by Edminzodo
What Cambridge college? :awesome:

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Trinity... although it is only regarded as of "limited suitability" rather than outright unsuitable.
Original post by jambojim97
Trinity... although it is only regarded as of "limited suitability" rather than outright unsuitable.


I'm not surprised. But I don't get it as Sociology is part of their HSPS course.
but why does sociology have such bad cred ?
Original post by Humzaawan123
but why does sociology have such bad cred ?


Its bad reputation as a discipline leads people to automatically assume the A-Level is less respected by universities, whereas this is clearly not the case.
Original post by jambojim97
Trinity... although it is only regarded as of "limited suitability" rather than outright unsuitable.


I was posting on another thread about how efforts made by universities to give information are then undermined by the misrepresentation of that information.

You, not Trinity, have relegated sociology by your comments. Trinity says sociology is suitable for those wishing to study arts subjects.
You're right- it doesn't put you at a disadvantage in any way. I'm at a top 5 law school and had sociology as an A level.
Original post by jambojim97
With the exception of one Cambridge college...
http://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/entry-requirements/academic/subjects
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/basc/prospective/application/alevels
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/undergraduate/policies/alevel
http://www.york.ac.uk/healthsciences/midwifery/academic-subjects/

Yes, I do take Sociology, along with English Literature, English Language and AS-Level Maths. I admit, it is considerably less challenging than my other three, but from what I can see, it will NOT hinder a university application to a RG/Redbrick university.

Furthermore, statistics lie. Yes, a greater proportion of 'hard' A Levels are accepted by top universities, but have you thought about this? Schools/ colleges put 'less able' students onto 'soft' courses like Sociology, and people do it thinking it will be a doss. However, come results day, they get bad grades, and are in no position to apply to top unis.

I cite the 2013 results statistics: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/over/stat_pdf/AQA-A-LEVEL-RESULTS-STATISTICS-JUNE-2013.PDF


Wait who said it was in the first place? :tongue:
I study Politics, APPLIED Business Studies and History and I have so far got 2 offers from RG institutions. The most important thing is good grades full stop, so long as you don't study all vocational subjects. The two traditional subjects rule is not absolute.
Original post by Edminzodo
I'm not surprised. But I don't get it as Sociology is part of their HSPS course.


To be fair I'm hardly surprised that Trinity see it as less suitable given the range of courses they offer. Clearly a traditional arts/humanities subject such as History would be better for HSPS given the breadth of skills it develops. Sociology just develops knowledge of Sociology, social sciences and research methods alongside some pretty basic evaluative skills. Whilst these skills may be useful for social science degrees such as Politics or Social Policy at RG/Redbrick unis, Cambridge really strives for the best.

However, that's not to say Sociology and other Social Science A Levels don't complement the more traditional; so you are probably fine in combination, hence why Sociology is only of "limited suitability."

This is the list I'm referring to: http://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/acceptable-level-subject-combinations
Original post by nulli tertius
I was posting on another thread about how efforts made by universities to give information are then undermined by the misrepresentation of that information.

You, not Trinity, have relegated sociology by your comments. Trinity says sociology is suitable for those wishing to study arts subjects.


"Limited suitability" thus suitable if you wanted to study an Arts subject like History, but unsuitable if you wanted to do a Science subject or quantitative Social Science e.g. Economics.

For example, an applicant offering Maths, Further Maths, Physics and History for an Economics course would be better off than someone studying Sociology because they are offering a traditional and 'generally suitable' arts subject.

I do emphasise that this is only for one Cambridge College, not every university.
Original post by jambojim97
"Limited suitability" thus suitable if you wanted to study an Arts subject like History, but unsuitable if you wanted to do a Science subject or quantitative Social Science e.g. Economics.

For example, an applicant offering Maths, Further Maths, Physics and History for an Economics course would be better off than someone studying Sociology because they are offering a traditional and 'generally suitable' arts subject.

I do emphasise that this is only for one Cambridge College, not every university.


Again, you have just gold-plated the requirements in two separate ways.

First of all the Trinity list has a binary division into arts and sciences. You will see that economics is specifically listed as an arts subject. You, not Trinity, have created the class of "quantitative Social Science" for which you, not Trinity, have declared sociology unsuitable.

Secondly you have listed a hypothetical candidate with four A levels. It is clear that the requirements from Lists A1, A2 and B relate only to the first three A levels only. It would be absurd to say that for someone reading maths: maths, further maths, physics and performing arts would be suitable but someone reading maths, further maths, physics and sociology would not.

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