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Would we not care as much about ISIS if they weren't "Muslims"?

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Original post by limetang
Pointless comparison, as Isis wouldn't be doing what they are if they weren't muslim, and what they are doing is distinctly different from Mexican cartels.

What drug cartels do is horrible but they arent committing genocide they're simply violent thugs engaging in a criminal business. ISIS on the other hand is committing genocide on any non Muslims it comes across. There is a distinct difference here.


Only the cartels can slaughter 500 innocent men woman and children and get away with it, no news stations ever report. When isis commits atrocities it is rightfully exposed, but with the cartels, most people never know their actions.

Most mainstream news never report a single cartel atrocity (like the slaughter of 500 innocent people).

The main difference is that one operates in the United States and south of its borders (virtually unchallenged in some areas) and provides a bigger threat to the US

And the other is half way across the world and will never step foot in the US.


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It's quite different. Those ISIS maniacs didn't kill innocent people for money,but for fulfilling their crazy dreams or ideals of world.

They,unlike those gangsters, obviously don't want to get rich.

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Original post by felamaslen
Ambition to do evil.


That sounds so cliché.
Original post by shahbaz
That sounds so cliché.


You disagree that ISIS are evil?
Original post by felamaslen
You disagree that ISIS are evil?


You make it sound so simple as if there's a good a guy and a bad guy. In reality it's not that simple.
Original post by shahbaz
You make it sound so simple as if there's a good a guy and a bad guy. In reality it's not that simple.


No, it's not always that simple; apart from when it is, like ISIS.
Original post by Skip_Snip
No, it's not always that simple; apart from when it is, like ISIS.


Yeah, and who do you think was funding them when they were fighting with the Assad regime.
Original post by shahbaz
Yeah, and who do you think was funding them when they were fighting with the Assad regime.


Is the rest of the world the Assad regime?
Mexican Cartels don't upload videos beheading journalists. They don't get 14 year olds from European countries to die fighting for them. They don't threat the US with bombing NY. They do not want to take over any country. They have no political or religious belief they want to hammer into people's heads. Nothing to do with them being Muslims. ETA was considered a threat to Spain and everyone panicked over it, yet none of them were muslims.
Have a good day.
Drug cartels don't seem to aspire to ruin the civilised world, they're not urging anyone they can to decapitate or bomb western civilians.
And to the wretches who compare Israel with ISIS. Noone has given a single **** over the 2000 palestinians dead in the Syrian conflict, over the 900 dead in local disputes. So yeah, of course they give a ****, after all, the 'horrible Jews' are involved.
Original post by Skip_Snip
Is the rest of the world the Assad regime?


They were still called IS at that point. Also I'm not sure that the whole world condemns IS.
Original post by shahbaz
You make it sound so simple as if there's a good a guy and a bad guy. In reality it's not that simple.


You disagree that the Americans and their allies are more worth supporting than IS?
Original post by The Clockwork Apple
Mexican Cartels don't upload videos beheading journalists. They don't get 14 year olds from European countries to die fighting for them. They don't threat the US with bombing NY. They do not want to take over any country. They have no political or religious belief they want to hammer into people's heads. Nothing to do with them being Muslims. ETA was considered a threat to Spain and everyone panicked over it, yet none of them were muslims.
Have a good day.


You seem to be skating over some parts of my OP.

Like ISIL, narcos recruit child soldiers, molding boys as young as 11 into assassins or sending them on suicide missions during armed confrontations with Mexico's army. They also kidnap tens of thousands of children every year to use as drug mules or prostitutes, or to simply kill and harvest their organs for sale on the black market.


Child soldiers being used by drug cartels ^

The cartels routinely target women and children to further intimidate the communities they occupy. And much like ISIL, the cartels use social media to post pornographic images of their crimes.


They use social media to post their crimes. Mexican cartel also post videos of themselves killing people(google this, you won't be disappointed).

Please read my OP properly and then reply next time. Good day :h:
Original post by The Clockwork Apple
And to the wretches who compare Israel with ISIS. Noone has given a single **** over the 2000 palestinians dead in the Syrian conflict, over the 900 dead in local disputes. So yeah, of course they give a ****, after all, the 'horrible Jews' are involved.


Please stop playing the "you care because they're Jewish" card. I care about them dying because they're Muslims, not because Jews are killing them(not saying I don't care about innocent non-Muslims dying). Yo Radical One has already been here and tried it.

I'm guessing you're:
A) A Jew with some prejudice against Muslims
B) A Zionist
C) Both A and B
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Original post by james22
They believe in the Quran, and that Muhamad is Allahs messenger. That makes them muslim.


They go against the fundamental teachings of Islam.
Original post by james22
Not following the Quran perfectly does not make you not a muslim. if that was the case then anyone who broke any of the rules (so everyone really) would no longer be a muslim. And how on earth do you know about their praying habbits?


So if you can see they are not practising Islam properly, why does everyone use the religion as the scapegoat?????
Original post by TSR Mustafa
They go against the fundamental teachings of Islam.


So did Mo (according to your metric), are you gonna say he wasn't muslim?
Original post by Skip_Snip
So did Mo (according to your metric), are you gonna say he wasn't muslim?


Wrong.

Give some examples.You seem to act knowledgeable so no google, from the top of your head please.
Original post by TSR Mustafa
They go against the fundamental teachings of Islam.


Doesn't matter, you can be muslim without following the rules. So long as you believe you are certainly muslim.

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