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if someone goes to join syrian rebels?

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syrain rebels include kurdish YPG and FSA who are fighting the extremists and even then being allied with them doesnt mean you are terrorist

The chances are they probably are a terrorist or some sort of extremist. Either way, no great loss if they get slotted.

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the north

Original post by Good bloke

Terrorism has been defined in legislation and is broader than the old informal use of the word. Its definition makes acts illegal that have previously been legal. For instance, those people that went off to fight in the Spanish Civil War would have been guilty of terrorism now.

The definition is:

It involves, essentially, any act of violence or war by a person who isn't in the official armed forces, no matter which side they are fighting for, and even if it takes place abroad.

were does it say in another country mate?

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the north

Original post by thunder_chunky

The chances are they probably are a terrorist or some sort of extremist. Either way, no great loss if they get slotted.

surely if they were some sort of extremist they would have joined an extremist group such as Isis to begin with. and what makes you so sure that they have committed a terror act to make them a terrorist if they're not part of a terrorist group?

Reply 23

Good bloke

Original post by the north

were does it say in another country mate?

It doesn't in the section I quoted. However, the next bit does, very specifically:

(4) In this section

(a) “action” includes action outside the United Kingdom,
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(b) a reference to any person or to property is a reference to any person, or to property, wherever situated,

(c) a reference to the public includes a reference to the public of a country other than the United Kingdom, and

(d) “the government” means the government of the United Kingdom, of a Part of the United Kingdom or of a country other than the United Kingdom.

Reply 24

Good bloke

Original post by the north

what makes you so sure that they have committed a terror act to make them a terrorist if they're not part of a terrorist group?

There is no requirement to be a member of an organisation to be guilty of terrorism, though membership of specific organisations is a crime.. You just have to carry out terrorist acts, which is a matter of evidence.

Reply 25

the north

Original post by Good bloke

so people who join the rebels cant be persecuted if they never committed terrorist acts?

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the north

Original post by Good bloke

It doesn't in the section I quoted. However, the next bit does, very specifically:

so any uk citizen fighting in any conflict without being part of UK armed force can be tried for terrorism?

Reply 27

Clip

Is it really that different from the International Brigades?

Reply 28

Good bloke

Original post by the north

so any uk citizen fighting in any conflict without being part of UK armed force can be tried for terrorism?

That is correct, unless they are part of another UK-recognised country's armed forces, of course.

Original post by Clip

Is it really that different from the International Brigades?

The only difference is that acting with the international brigades would now be illegal under modern terrorism legislation in the UK, but wasn't at the time of the Spanish Civil War.