Belarus Bans Unemployment.

"You want to bring back [the phrase] 'social parasitism,' do it. That would be easier for the people to understand"

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/509831.html?utm_content=buffer9235d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Social parasitism was a criminal offense in the Soviet Union from 1936 to 1991, based on the doctrine that in a socialist state, every able-bodied person has a duty to work and help build a utopian communist society.

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I would just like to say that Socialism never condones this kind of draconian policy. It is simply not Socialism, but a bastardisation of it.

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Reply 1

Yeah dude

Original post by arson_fire

I can envisage lots of holes being dug and then filled back in in Belarus shortly...........

Belarus banned holes years ago

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Reply 2

FriendlyRough

Should be a law here in Britain making it illegal to be unemployed and claiming JSA.

Reply 3

Quady

Original post by Martyn*

Social parasitism was a criminal offense in the Soviet Union from 1936 to 1991,
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I would just like to say that Socialism never condones this kind of draconian policy. It is simply not Socialism, but a bastardisation of it.

Well clearly it did...

Reply 4

Martyn*

Original post by Quady

Well clearly it did...

It didn't.

Reply 5

Quady

Original post by Martyn*

It didn't.

So which Socialist system hasn't?

Reply 6

Martyn*

Original post by Quady

So which Socialist system hasn't?

None of them. No Socialist system ever has or ever would advocate such a policy.

Reply 7

Alfissti

This should be the law in Britain especially in Wigan.

Reply 8

Rakas21

Original post by arson_fire

I can envisage lots of holes being dug and then filled back in in Belarus shortly...........

There's an old story that Freedman went to Mao's China and saw them building a railway line with shovels and wheelbarrows. When asking them why they would not use modern machinery the reply was that this was a work programme. Freedman's reply (which i find quite funny) was to say i've got a teaspoon, why not have them use this.

Reply 9

Lord Jon

Lawmakers aren't very bright in Belarus are they....

How on earth does this work??

Reply 10

DErasmus

Original post by Lord Jon

Lawmakers aren't very bright in Belarus are they....

How on earth does this work??

anyone else think English is stupid?

Reply 11

Rakas21

Original post by Lord Jon

Lawmakers aren't very bright in Belarus are they....

How on earth does this work??

Government creates non-jobs and if you refuse to do your duty to society you'll be thrown in prison.

Reply 12

nulli tertius

Original post by Martyn*

None of them. No Socialist system ever has or ever would advocate such a policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Reply 13

Observatory

Original post by Martyn*

I would just like to say that Socialism never condones this kind of draconian policy. It is simply not Socialism, but a bastardisation of it.

Whenever someone says real socialism doesn't mean this or that, I find it helpful to consult the owner's manual:

Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.

These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

So indeed, the enforced obligation to work, with military discipline, was functioning as designed in the USSR.

Reply 14

Viva Emptiness

Original post by FriendlyRough

Should be a law here in Britain making it illegal to be unemployed and claiming JSA.

Seems pretty cruel to have a JSA and then make it illegal to claim it :wink:

Reply 15

FriendlyRough

Original post by Viva Emptiness

Seems pretty cruel to have a JSA and then make it illegal to claim it :wink:

Shouldn't be unemployed then.

Reply 16

Viva Emptiness

Original post by FriendlyRough

Shouldn't be unemployed then.

Or just ditch the JSA. Which was the point I was making about your ridiculous post.

Reply 17

MagicNMedicine

Original post by FriendlyRough

Should be a law here in Britain making it illegal to be unemployed and claiming JSA.

Isn't there a poster on TSR who continually tells us that the government is making it illegal to be poor...

Reply 18

Puddles the Monkey

Original post by FriendlyRough

Should be a law here in Britain making it illegal to be unemployed and claiming JSA.

It's called Job Seekers Allowance for a reason - it's there to support people financially whilst they're looking for a job. :smile:

You can't claim JSA if you're employed. :h:

Reply 19

InArduisFouette

Original post by Martyn*

None of them. No Socialist system ever has or ever would advocate such a policy.

There has never been an actual socialist state ... why do you think the SOviet Union found so many dissidentsand had to get rid of trotsky ? - simply becasue they either wanted to deliver what Marx proposed or they had seen through the veneer of socialism on the totalitarian regime.