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Going to American Univeristy?

Hey Peeps, I was wondering if it would be better to go to an american university rather than a boring uk one. I mean is it worth it? My aims are oxbridge, edinburgh, imperial, ucl and manchester. Do you think I should stay in the UK or is it worth it going to the USA? Also, I'm on a budget so I'll always go with the cheaper option.
If you're on a budget don't bother with the USA; it's upwards of £20,000 a year (minimum) unless you can get a scholarship, which is very unlikely. I was going to apply to the USA and did a lot of research on it (attended events, the SAT etc) only to pull out at the last minute simply due to cost. UK is by far cheaper.
Original post by perflous
If you're on a budget don't bother with the USA; it's upwards of £20,000 a year (minimum) unless you can get a scholarship, which is very unlikely. I was going to apply to the USA and did a lot of research on it (attended events, the SAT etc) only to pull out at the last minute simply due to cost. UK is by far cheaper.


True, True. I really want to explore the USA lifestyle. Like they have some weird and fun things there and it's a different lifestyle etc. Oh well, I guess it's boring old oxford or cambridge for me. Jk, jk I probably wont get in anyways :rolleyes:..
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Original post by perflous
If you're on a budget don't bother with the USA; it's upwards of £20,000 a year (minimum) unless you can get a scholarship, which is very unlikely. I was going to apply to the USA and did a lot of research on it (attended events, the SAT etc) only to pull out at the last minute simply due to cost. UK is by far cheaper.


Original post by UnknownDude
Hey Peeps, I was wondering if it would be better to go to an american university rather than a boring uk one. I mean is it worth it? My aims are oxbridge, edinburgh, imperial, ucl and manchester. Do you think I should stay in the UK or is it worth it going to the USA? Also, I'm on a budget so I'll always go with the cheaper option.



if youre from a low income family there is actually A LOT of financial aid available for you which are allocated based on needs. Some more prestigious colleges are even need blind and just give you loads of money to go an study over there.

I would definately consider it and dont be put of by costs.

You would need to take SAT/ACT to be considered at a majority of the best colleges.
Some require SAT Subject tests too.
So google these and consider taking them!

umm the fulbright commission's are a fantastic website to go to. You can even email them with personal queries.
http://www.fulbright.org.uk/

even better if you are in Yr 12 consider applying to the US Sutton Trust programme if you fit the requirements.
http://www.suttontrust.com/programmes/us-programme/
I went on it this year and they are fantastic with the support they provide and even pay for a trip for you to go to the US + all the exams you'd need to take.
Original post by RagaZ
if youre from a low income family there is actually A LOT of financial aid available for you which are allocated based on needs. Some more prestigious colleges are even need blind and just give you loads of money to go an study over there.

I would definately consider it and dont be put of by costs.

You would need to take SAT/ACT to be considered at a majority of the best colleges.
Some require SAT Subject tests too.
So google these and consider taking them!

umm the fulbright commission's are a fantastic website to go to. You can even email them with personal queries.
http://www.fulbright.org.uk/

even better if you are in Yr 12 consider applying to the US Sutton Trust programme if you fit the requirements.
http://www.suttontrust.com/programmes/us-programme/
I went on it this year and they are fantastic with the support they provide and even pay for a trip for you to go to the US + all the exams you'd need to take.


Thanks alot for the resources! Gonna sign up for the Sutton Trust now! Can you tell me more about it. I've read the requiremnts and I meet them perfectly! Also, next year summer I wont be here so is there some summer school because I know I wont attend. I hope they do help me financially because thats the only thing putting me off to going to Caltech, MIT, Stanford and Harvard!
Original post by RagaZ

even better if you are in Yr 12 consider applying to the US Sutton Trust programme if you fit the requirements.
http://www.suttontrust.com/programmes/us-programme/
I went on it this year and they are fantastic with the support they provide and even pay for a trip for you to go to the US + all the exams you'd need to take.


The website says that the applications are now closed?????? Please tell me this is not true!!!!
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Original post by UnknownDude
Thanks alot for the resources! Gonna sign up for the Sutton Trust now! Can you tell me more about it. I've read the requiremnts and I meet them perfectly! Also, next year summer I wont be here so is there some summer school because I know I wont attend. I hope they do help me financially because thats the only thing putting me off to going to Caltech, MIT, Stanford and Harvard!


hmm thats difficult then...
There is a summer school and it is usually one of the first 2 weeks of August.

if you definately can't make the summer school then I'm not sure if its worth applying because the initial application process will if i can remember clearly will ask if you are available during those dates.
Also it would be a waste of time for you because the application process is actually fairly long and laborious :/

having said that though. THere are 4 events throughout the year held by them in the UK if you get onto the programme which give you all the information you need. and i'm presuming it is this support you want. So apply if you can.

And yes dont worry they will cover costs such as ACT test, plus private tuition and revision books for you. But the SAT Subject tests and cost for applications may not be available to you as they are for the students who attend the US summer school week.
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Original post by UnknownDude
The website says that the applications are now closed?????? Please tell me this is not true!!!!


LOL dont panic...the applications open in November!!! :smile:
Original post by RagaZ
hmm thats difficult then...
There is a summer school and it is usually one of the first 2 weeks of August.

if you definately can't make the summer school then I'm not sure if its worth applying because the initial application process will if i can remember clearly will ask if you are available during those dates.
Also it would be a waste of time for you because the application process is actually fairly long and laborious :/

having said that though. THere are 4 events throughout the year held by them in the UK if you get onto the programme which give you all the information you need. and i'm presuming it is this support you want. So apply if you can.

And yes dont worry they will cover costs such as ACT test, plus private tuition and revision books for you. But the SAT Subject tests and cost for applications may not be available to you as they are for the students who attend the US summer school week.


True True... but at the end of the day, is a US university better in terms of futr employibility and education than a UK one? Like is Stanford better than Cambridge or are they the same?
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Original post by UnknownDude
True True... but at the end of the day, is a US university better in terms of futr employibility and education than a UK one? Like is Stanford better than Cambridge or are they the same?


to be 100% honest with you. If you were to get an offer from Cambridge and take it over Stanford id probably call you a fool!

and in my opinion and the opinions of industry leaders and lead academics, the UK undergraduate study is FAR superior to US undergraduate study.
This is because the UK churns out high quality specialist students with a specialised degree from the get go. Whereas in america you have to do something like GCSEs again. Its called the common core. In which if you wanted to purely study mathematics you would still need to take modules in a humanities, in science and in an art. As a result US students tend to come out more "well rounded" but not very specialised like UK students, and it is these specialised students that are more employable.

However heading to the US has its benefits. you get to "internationalise" your CV which makes you stand out more and there is no doubt that US universities are recognised far more than UK ones, other than LSE, Imperial, oxbridge or UCL.

you need to do a lot more research if you want to commit yourself to the US as there system is pretty different to ours.

BTW... Yale is better than Harvard :smile:
Original post by RagaZ
to be 100% honest with you. If you were to get an offer from Cambridge and take it over Stanford id probably call you a fool!

and in my opinion and the opinions of industry leaders and lead academics, the UK undergraduate study is FAR superior to US undergraduate study.
This is because the UK churns out high quality specialist students with a specialised degree from the get go. Whereas in america you have to do something like GCSEs again. Its called the common core. In which if you wanted to purely study mathematics you would still need to take modules in a humanities, in science and in an art. As a result US students tend to come out more "well rounded" but not very specialised like UK students, and it is these specialised students that are more employable.

However heading to the US has its benefits. you get to "internationalise" your CV which makes you stand out more and there is no doubt that US universities are recognised far more than UK ones, other than LSE, Imperial, oxbridge or UCL.

you need to do a lot more research if you want to commit yourself to the US as there system is pretty different to ours.

BTW... Yale is better than Harvard :smile:


Thanks for the motivation. I guess the only reason I'd go to the US is because it's fun. I mean after you finish your degree at Cambridge, like all the top companies come looking for you, so it wont be a problem. I mean if google employed you, can you tell them to transfer you to the US and start working there? Tbh, I dont like the well-rounded system. I like to focus on what I like: Maths and Computer Science. I dreaded English and History and managed to pull off an A* but I don't want to do them again.
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Original post by UnknownDude
Thanks for the motivation. I guess the only reason I'd go to the US is because it's fun. I mean after you finish your degree at Cambridge, like all the top companies come looking for you, so it wont be a problem. I mean if google employed you, can you tell them to transfer you to the US and start working there? Tbh, I dont like the well-rounded system. I like to focus on what I like: Maths and Computer Science. I dreaded English and History and managed to pull off an A* but I don't want to do them again.


to me it seems like the UK is for you! :smile:

But dont be put off by the US, there lifestyle is so unique and cool! have u considered maybe just doing a year abroad? that way you get the specialised UK degree and get to experience the US culture and have fun across the pond :smile:
Original post by RagaZ
to me it seems like the UK is for you! :smile:

But dont be put off by the US, there lifestyle is so unique and cool! have u considered maybe just doing a year abroad? that way you get the specialised UK degree and get to experience the US culture and have fun across the pond :smile:


Yeah, that sums it up really. Didn't know the US education system was all-rounded. Thought it was like the UK... I guess ima work hard this year and try to get full marks or 4 A s or something like that and then become the first person to go to Oxford or Cambridge :rolleyes:. I dream alot. And I'm probably thinking of doing a Masters, but I guess I gotta think about all this after results day! Thanks for the advice!
Hi everyone!

If you're interested in undergraduate study in the US, seriously check out the Sutton Trust US Programme! I'm currently a student on the programme and can say I've had all the support I need in applying to a US university. You're right about how it can internationalise your CV, and also correct about the liberal arts system of education, but some very specialised colleges do offer STEM-Based curriculums so if you were really allergic to humanities you could survive there! (MIT, caltech, Harvey Mudd, and others). If you're eligible for the programme I highly recommend applying, it makes the application process so much easier! Let me know if you want to know more about the programme or applying!
Original post by CaitlinHogan96
Hi everyone!

If you're interested in undergraduate study in the US, seriously check out the Sutton Trust US Programme! I'm currently a student on the programme and can say I've had all the support I need in applying to a US university. You're right about how it can internationalise your CV, and also correct about the liberal arts system of education, but some very specialised colleges do offer STEM-Based curriculums so if you were really allergic to humanities you could survive there! (MIT, caltech, Harvey Mudd, and others). If you're eligible for the programme I highly recommend applying, it makes the application process so much easier! Let me know if you want to know more about the programme or applying!


Yeah i know im eligible but like next summer im going on holiday for a month so i dont think i can be on the us programme
Original post by UnknownDude
Yeah i know im eligible but like next summer im going on holiday for a month so i dont think i can be on the us programme


Ah that's a real shame! The residential is usually one of the first two weeks of August - it's a shame you can't make it. Fulbright do amazing seminars on US undergraduate study and they're a great pool of resources for people who can't make it to the programme - I highly suggest checking them out!
Original post by UnknownDude
True True... but at the end of the day, is a US university better in terms of futr employibility and education than a UK one? Like is Stanford better than Cambridge or are they the same?


They are about the same, if you want a job in Silicon Valley or in the US though, Stanford > Cambridge.

Here in the UK people think Cambridge is better than Stanford but out West most people will know Stanford and the amount of funding there is just out of the world.

Then again, I don't think you'll be able to get into Stanford without getting into Cambridge.

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