15 year old Army Cadet set on fire for selling poppies

Don't see why charging him with a hate crime is going to be or should be any 'better' than charging him with assault.

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the bear

surely attempted murder would be the charge ?

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Genocidal

Original post by Drewski

Don't see why charging him with a hate crime is going to be or should be any 'better' than charging him with assault.

Because nobody buys a paper to hear about an assault. But when it's a hate crime we can't wait to vent!

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Skip_Snip

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Original post by Drewski

Don't see why charging him with a hate crime is going to be or should be any 'better' than charging him with assault.

It's recognition of the motive?

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Andy98

Holy ****! I'm glad I had homework

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Original post by Skip_Snip

It's recognition of the motive?

Why does the motive matter? It's assault. End of. Why do they need recognition?

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H.N.I.C

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Original post by Genocidal

Because nobody buys a paper to hear about an assault. But when it's a hate crime we can't wait to vent!

And to better serve the elites agenda ...Divide and Rule

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Genocidal

Original post by H.N.I.C

And to better serve the elites agenda ...Divide and Rule

Hardly. That was already accomplished centuries ago. It's just a matter of money. People don't care about standard assault stories, so they have to be blown up to get people to pay attention and spend money on things like papers.

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Marco1

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Original post by Drewski

Why does the motive matter? It's assault. End of. Why do they need recognition?

Motive is vital so one can work out the truth behind the action. Motive is always important to determine the gravity of the crime and what charge is appropriate. What use comes from ignoring motive? How does that help one understand fully?

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Catholic_

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This is not national news, which is concerning.

People should be outraged by this typical etiquette toward any form of loyalty, love and natural care for ones nation and identity, which is what many a 'people' despise, as they want you down in the dumps defeated, that's certainly when they won't complain, and you can trust them to push their own ideals and personal wants onto you no matter how it changes and affects you entirely, that's what you expect from self-absorbed entities.

I suspect if a woman selling hijabs was subjected to the same treatment, the nation would be ablaze with concerns about racism.

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Profesh

Describing the perpetrator as "Asian or black" (whatever the **** that means) is itself tantamount to a hate-crime.

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Original post by Marco1

Motive is vital so one can work out the truth behind the action. Motive is always important to determine the gravity of the crime and what charge is appropriate. What use comes from ignoring motive? How does that help one understand fully?

Yes, but not to the point where the motive overrides the crime. It's assault. Use the motive to determine guilt by all means. But assault is assault, no one type is 'better' or 'worse' than any other.

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Catholic_

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Original post by Profesh

Describing the perpetrator as "Asian or black" (whatever the **** that means) is itself tantamount to a hate-crime.

Please do not refer to the Nazis as German in that case.

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Marco1

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Original post by Drewski

Yes, but not to the point where the motive overrides the crime. It's assault. Use the motive to determine guilt by all means. But assault is assault, no one type is 'better' or 'worse' than any other.

I have to disagree entirely. The intention/motive determines the seriousness of assault. For example if the assault was a response from fear of one's life after being threatened with death by someone holding a knife. These matters are integral to the crime incident and mitigate accordingly, the gravity of the crime.

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Profesh

Original post by Catholic_

Please do not refer to the Nazis as German in that case.

The irony of that sentiment being elicited by a comment on the pervasive and unwarranted social stigma arising from over-zealous racial-profiling on the part of the gutter press is simply hilarious: you might as well describe the perpetrator as 'jewish or black' for all the difference it would make.

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