Why do people fight over football?

I'm not telling you. You will snitch.

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uwot m8 do you want some

Because they are pond life.

If Galatasaray went to Elland Road for example it would kick off good and proper and it has nothing to do with who wins the match.

Let me break it down.

For me to want some, it would have to regard a matter of sufficient importance and proximity to my everyday life, for example if you kicked my cat across the road, I might be inclined to want some; but not for matters such as this which are so arbitrary and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

I dont get the logic behind it.
It's just pathetic.

what do these people actually have to gain or lose?
they have nothing to gain or lose whatever the match outcome

I mean why? just why?

I dont get the logic behind it.

I 'support' a team that wears red. You 'support' a team that wear blue.

Therefore there may come a point where a physical altercation happens.

It's just pathetic.



what do these people actually have to gain or lose? its watching 22 grown men kick a ball around a field. Unless they are shareholders in the actual football club, they have nothing to gain or lose whatever the match outcome (unless they have betted on the game too).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2821563/Football-hooligans-throw-bottles-flares-dozens-clash-street-outside-pub-Manchester-derby.html

I mean why? just why?

Yeah ok. But why then?

Why would Leeds kick off? Because Galatasaray murdered two of their fans in 2000. The people who would look for a scrap wouldn't care about the result, it would be about revenge. Same with MU and Roma in 2007 after their fans got filled in by Italian police so they pasted some Italians in the home leg (MU won this match 7-1 btw). Same with Juventus and Liverpool.

The chances are when this sort of violence happens, the clubs involved have a long history of hatred or something has gone on previously.

Has nothing to do with 22 men kicking a ball round some grass as you put it. I can't think of many occasions where a team lost to someone they have no history of bad blood with and then decided to look for a tear up after the match because they were angry about losing.

Then there are clubs like Blues who are just animals.

is it just a case of frustrated grown men, with little going on in their lives, seeking a kick at the weekend, and it makes them feel like some kind of outlaw in the wild west so to speak.

You bring up these past events, but the corporate fans, who have careers and better things in their lives, couldn't care less.

its watching 22 grown men kick a ball around a field

Yes it is for many. But you said:



I was just pointing out this is wrong, they aren't fighting over the result.

Hahahaha at ALL of you who think it has ANYTHING to do with football.

Trust me, I've been on that side of the fence and I know that the football has little to no bearing on it. You get two gangs of angry young men, who have no positivity to look forward to in their lives and who have become disaffected with society/government and they've got a reason to fight, by jove they'll scrap!

If football didn't exist, I'm sure these groups will find other reasons, such as fashion sense (see Mods vs Rockers) or "Territory" (see US Gangs in 80's)

I was just pointing out this is wrong, they aren't fighting over the result.

You're right.

I would go as far as to say that the causality is reversed from how most people understand it. It is not the football that causes the hooliganism and hatred, it is the hooliganism and hatred that makes football so much more popular than all the other less tribal sports.

Violence, hatred, segregation, identity, and football are intrinsically linked, they have grown together over the past 100 years.

There is no reason it is football that has become so intrinsic to the sense of self-identity of the disengaged young hoodlum, it could be anything. It could be tiddlywinks, and then we'd have tiddlywink fans murdering each other and everyone going to the pub to drink and watch tiddlywink "super Sundays" and look for someone wearing the wrong colours to beat up.