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What are your opinions on asexuals/ asexuality?

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Original post by TorpidPhil
Some asexuals are romantically inclinded only to go with the opposite gender but sexually inclinded to go with the same gender


This isn't asexuality - that's just romantic and sexual attraction.

Original post by TorpidPhil
faux-hetero-homo-dichotomy


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Original post by Edminzodo
Why not? I'm not the kind of person to get worked up about sexuality, but I have never had a crush or found anyone attractive in my life, so I think I am asexual . . .

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I'm just sceptical about things like that, I find it hard to believe someone can never have found someone else attractive by the time they're in their 20's


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Original post by amberskye
That's like saying, if you didn't like pizza, me saying it's a shame that you don't because you're missing out on such a great food. But you don't like it so you don't care.


But... You would be missing out on a great food! I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't like pizza.
Original post by amberskye
This isn't asexuality - that's just romantic and sexual attraction.



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And one may be heterosexual with regards to sexual attraction and bisexual with regards to romantic attraction and so on? One may be asexual towards sexual attraction and asexual to romantic attraction. Asexuality is merely the absence of either one or the other, or both type(s) of attraction to any gender?

Look, I'm totally hetero-normative sexually so maybe I misunderstand. I'm open to criticism this just an interpretation of what I've read online of these ideas :smile:

Well I wanted to say hetero/homo dichotomy because it has explanatory value even if ultimately it's just wrong since sexuality isn't a discrete thing, rather is fluids and operates on a continuum.
Original post by TorpidPhil
And one may be heterosexual with regards to sexual attraction and bisexual with regards to romantic attraction and so on? One may be asexual towards sexual attraction and asexual to romantic attraction. Asexuality is merely the absence of either one or the other, or both type(s) of attraction to any gender?


Lack of sexual attraction is asexual, the same in regards to romantic attraction would be aromantic.
Original post by shadowdweller
Lack of sexual attraction is asexual, the same in regards to romantic attraction would be aromantic.


Is it possible for somebody to be aromantic but sexual? (psuedo-rhetorical question because I realise there is no objective answer that you can realistically give)

If that's a thing then I guess I should just accept asexual implies not aromantic. If it isn't then that complicates things quite a lot.
Reply 46
Speaking as an asexual, I think a lot of attitudes towards asexuality are based on not fully understanding. As others on this discussion have said, a lot of reactions are "have you been sexually abused" or "maybe you're gay and haven't realised it yet", things like that.

I'm just gonna put this out here, asexuality doesn't mean that you cant participate in sexual activities, and as far as I know, a lot of asexuals masturbate, and even have happy sexual relationships. Some don't do either, and they're happy too.

If we're gonna use this pizza analogy, maybe imagine there's a buffet table. You're not particularly hungry so you wouldn't seek out a slice of pizza, but if you ate it anyway, it would still be tasty. Asexuality doesn't mean you can't enjoy sex, it just means you don't desire it.

I'm real bad at explaining things, but there's my best shot :P


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Original post by plaguepitlasagna
I'm just interested to see what people think and if they even know about it

for a gf theyd put me off but Id still consider them.
Original post by Mazzini
It doesn't make a difference to me. It's just like being straight, gay, polysexual, lesbian, pansexual, or queer, or any other orientation. Another wonderful aspect of the diversity of life :smile:


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Original post by AmyL7
Speaking as an asexual, I think a lot of attitudes towards asexuality are based on not fully understanding. As others on this discussion have said, a lot of reactions are "have you been sexually abused" or "maybe you're gay and haven't realised it yet", things like that.

I'm just gonna put this out here, asexuality doesn't mean that you cant participate in sexual activities, and as far as I know, a lot of asexuals masturbate, and even have happy sexual relationships. Some don't do either, and they're happy too.

If we're gonna use this pizza analogy, maybe imagine there's a buffet table. You're not particularly hungry so you wouldn't seek out a slice of pizza, but if you ate it anyway, it would still be tasty. Asexuality doesn't mean you can't enjoy sex, it just means you don't desire it.

I'm real bad at explaining things, but there's my best shot :P


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That's quite a ridiculous definition though as that means priests would be asexual despite actually being driven to have sex to an extent still.

It makes the fluidity of sexuality really... quite fluid. It means that a man after ejaculating becomes asexual and then when he wakes up is back to whatever he was before.

Silliness.
Original post by amberskye
That's like saying, if you didn't like pizza, me saying it's a shame that you don't because you're missing out on such a great food. But you don't like it so you don't care.


That's entirely illogical. I would feel sorry for someone who doesn't like pizza as well. But not as much as I feel sorry for people who don't like sex.
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Original post by EleanorFrost
As an asexual, reading this made me smile! I never tell anyone about how I feel because they either think I've been abused, am religious, in denial about being gay or in a 'phase'. Even my closest friend says the way I am is abnormal and unnatural which is incredibly hurtful.

So if you watch a porn you don't get horny or anything? Like, nothing turns you on? What about kissing and doing other "stuff"?
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Original post by cole-slaw
That's entirely illogical. I would feel sorry for someone who doesn't like pizza as well. But not as much as I feel sorry for people who don't like sex.

Personally I'm not asexual but I don't like sex either. It's like...painful and not even near to as amazing as I expected it to be. So yeah, it's not so wonderful for everyone and tbh I kind of feel sorry for people who love it as much as you do.
Original post by TorpidPhil
Would it really?


Yes it would.
Original post by TorpidPhil
I don't think so either :s-smilie:

I mean for a start making zee babies would be super expensive and that probably wouldn't do much for starvation...

Maybe the increase in economic efficiency would compensate for that though.

Ahhh but no romance... What would all modern rap be based around if not the wonderful poetry of romance?

I have often wondered though, as an analytic philosopher who tries to be objective as much as possible, if from an individual perspective being truly asexual would be beneficial. I just know I am all too easily swayed by a female speaker and am unable to properly rip their terrible arguments to pieces like I am to a fellow foolish male. Sub-conscious preconceptions worry me dearly.


Who said babies had to be made?
Original post by Iggy Azalea
Who said babies had to be made?


Are you saying mass suicide of humans would be better for the world?
Original post by cole-slaw
That's entirely illogical. I would feel sorry for someone who doesn't like pizza as well. But not as much as I feel sorry for people who don't like sex.


That's not illogical, you're illogical for thinking that people are missing out just because they have different subjective preferences from you.
Original post by TorpidPhil
Is it possible for somebody to be aromantic but sexual? (psuedo-rhetorical question because I realise there is no objective answer that you can realistically give)

If that's a thing then I guess I should just accept asexual implies not aromantic. If it isn't then that complicates things quite a lot.


Yeah, you can be asexual without being aromantic, and vice versa. Same with any sexuality really - romantic and sexual orientation don't always match up.
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Original post by TorpidPhil
That's quite a ridiculous definition though as that means priests would be asexual despite actually being driven to have sex to an extent still.

It makes the fluidity of sexuality really... quite fluid. It means that a man after ejaculating becomes asexual and then when he wakes up is back to whatever he was before.

Silliness.


If a priest has sexual feelings, I'd describe that more as, he wants the pizza, but he's on a diet, so he can't? :P

I think maybe you're taking the analogy too literally (my bad), asexuality is an orientation, not a feeling. After a hetero man ejaculates he is still the same orientation as he was before, just as an asexual man is still asexual after he ejaculates. It's more of like, my attitude towards sex is with indifference, much like my attitude towards pizza when I'm not hungry.

Feelings of sexuality are fluid, but orientation is sort of more complicated than that.

How hungry the person feels after eating the pizza is irrelevant to the analogy :smile: hope these rambles help a little!


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Original post by TorpidPhil
Are you saying mass suicide of humans would be better for the world?


Yes that is exactly what I am saying.

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