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What's The Point Of Doing An MBA?

Is it really worth the price? :smile:

I'm considering doing a Management degree; if so, would an MBA be useless and effectively re-cover what I already know?

Thanks :biggrin:
You do an MBA after having industry experience. Helps diversify your skill portoflio. Allows you to enter in some industries at a higher position. MBA is taught at a much higher level than a BSc and they are customised to your preferences and needs.
An MBA doesn't teach you anything you can't learn from a book (eg 'MBA In A Day'), it's more about analysing and applying those skills in the real world. It's also about developing your soft skills such as being able to stand up and present business cases and sales pitches. There are general MBAs and more specialised ones (eg oil and gas, transport, IT management). You develop your network and often get access to high-profile figures.

While it's impossible to quantify the value of an MBA (ie you might become a CEO anyway) it certainly enhances your CV, confidence and reputation along the way.

The general advice seems to be if you have to ask if it's worth the price then you're not ready to do one. Do you have an undergraduate degree and at least 3 years industry experience? Good luck with whatever you end up doing :-)
Reply 3
Original post by Morrisseya
Is it really worth the price? :smile:

I'm considering doing a Management degree; if so, would an MBA be useless and effectively re-cover what I already know?

Thanks :biggrin:


The ones that are worth the price are the ones that employers sponsor people for. Apart from the financial aspect this is also a solid sign that it's valued by employers. And MBA fees are aimed at those getting corporate sponsorship, which is why they are so high.
I don't know. All I know is if I can get into Harvard, Wharton or Stanford I'm using my trust fund to buy one :biggrin:

I have decided it's either a house deposit or an Ivy MBA.

After 2-4 years I'm taking a career break to go to the USA to get one.

This is if I can get in......
Original post by sj27
The ones that are worth the price are the ones that employers sponsor people for. Apart from the financial aspect this is also a solid sign that it's valued by employers. And MBA fees are aimed at those getting corporate sponsorship, which is why they are so high.


But UK employers don't support US ones :frown:
Original post by PrincessAlexis
I don't know. All I know is if I can get into Harvard, Wharton or Stanford I'm using my trust fund to buy one :biggrin:

I have decided it's either a house deposit or an Ivy MBA.

After 2-4 years I'm taking a career break to go to the USA to get one.

This is if I can get in......


The house is a better investment :smile:

Original post by PrincessAlexis
But UK employers don't support US ones :frown:


Generally if you are in EU especially in UK, the ones who usually will ask that you do the MBA would be American companies when they see you have potential. These will pay for you to have the MBA done in USA.

Original post by Morrisseya
Is it really worth the price? :smile:

I'm considering doing a Management degree; if so, would an MBA be useless and effectively re-cover what I already know?

Thanks :biggrin:


Worth the price is subjective. One thing for sure, any MBA that you can get in without 5-10 years of middle-management experience won't be worth the paper it is printed on. You'd get a higher utility factor buying a Tesco Value Toilet Roll than paying for the MBA at a place that would let you in without some solid management experience. That is pretty much true to 90% of all business related post-grad qualifications.

If you want to do an MBA, ideally you should have an employer sponsor you as it is one of the greatest myth that your career prospects would dramatically improve the moment you come out with an MBA, even if it is issued by an Ivy League institution.

The price of the tuition isn't the only factor involved for the cost, you must also take into account that 18 months of income would be gone as part of the opportunity cost. This is money that will be very difficult to make up for.

Networking? LOL 99% of these programs are full of students from China, India and other countries from Asia, it would be of no value networking with them. If you are looking for the networking aspect of it, then you must join an executive MBA program or one that is catered more for working professionals.

Knowledge? The MBA program I participated in, we had one module called Strategic Management and most of us could teach the instructor more than he could teach us. If your company you wanted to work for needed the knowledge of the instructor they would have hired him not one of his students :smile:

Go for it when it is the right time as there is a very narrow window of opportunity where it can be of use in career progression rather than just another piece of paper.

If you are doing it for personal development or plain knowledge purposes, then look up on YouTube :biggrin: Many US institutions these days have their entire curriculum for the MBA online and you can pursue it for free :smile:
Original post by Alfissti
The house is a better investment :smile:



Generally if you are in EU especially in UK, the ones who usually will ask that you do the MBA would be American companies when they see you have potential. These will pay for you to have the MBA done in USA.



Worth the price is subjective. One thing for sure, any MBA that you can get in without 5-10 years of middle-management experience won't be worth the paper it is printed on. You'd get a higher utility factor buying a Tesco Value Toilet Roll than paying for the MBA at a place that would let you in without some solid management experience. That is pretty much true to 90% of all business related post-grad qualifications.

If you want to do an MBA, ideally you should have an employer sponsor you as it is one of the greatest myth that your career prospects would dramatically improve the moment you come out with an MBA, even if it is issued by an Ivy League institution.

The price of the tuition isn't the only factor involved for the cost, you must also take into account that 18 months of income would be gone as part of the opportunity cost. This is money that will be very difficult to make up for.

Networking? LOL 99% of these programs are full of students from China, India and other countries from Asia, it would be of no value networking with them. If you are looking for the networking aspect of it, then you must join an executive MBA program or one that is catered more for working professionals.

Knowledge? The MBA program I participated in, we had one module called Strategic Management and most of us could teach the instructor more than he could teach us. If your company you wanted to work for needed the knowledge of the instructor they would have hired him not one of his students :smile:

Go for it when it is the right time as there is a very narrow window of opportunity where it can be of use in career progression rather than just another piece of paper.

If you are doing it for personal development or plain knowledge purposes, then look up on YouTube :biggrin: Many US institutions these days have their entire curriculum for the MBA online and you can pursue it for free :smile:


Thanks :-)

I'm getting around £80k from the trust.

So I should progress my career naturally and just use it on a house instead?
Original post by PrincessAlexis
Thanks :-)

I'm getting around £80k from the trust.

So I should progress my career naturally and just use it on a house instead?


Absolutely.
Reply 9
Original post by PrincessAlexis
But UK employers don't support US ones :frown:


LBS is one of the best MBAs in the world and it's in the UK...

And anyway there are plenty Harvard etc MBAs paid for by non-american companies. You are either at the wrong company, don't have the right experience for Harvard, or your company don't think you're worth it.

If you really have a trust fund that is only enough for either a house deposit or MBA, it seems a bit daft to spend it all on an MBA tbh. Just my opinion.
Original post by sj27
LBS is one of the best MBAs in the world and it's in the UK...

And anyway there are plenty Harvard etc MBAs paid for by non-american companies. You are either at the wrong company, don't have the right experience for Harvard, or your company don't think you're worth it.

If you really have a trust fund that is only enough for either a house deposit or MBA, it seems a bit daft to spend it all on an MBA tbh. Just my opinion.


I'm not working yet. I'm a student atm as per my original post I PLANNED to get one after 2-4 years working.

I know, it was just a goal of mine to get one. I'll use the money elsewhere.

I thought it would be nice to have LSE for undergrad and an Ivy MBA, but I guess it'll be better for me to put the money on a house.


Thanks for your opinion.
Original post by PrincessAlexis
I don't know. All I know is if I can get into Harvard, Wharton or Stanford I'm using my trust fund to buy one :biggrin:

I have decided it's either a house deposit or an Ivy MBA.

After 2-4 years I'm taking a career break to go to the USA to get one.

This is if I can get in......

Funny, I have similar investments and I'm saving for a deposit on a house!

I have considered doing an MBA at a top university a little later in my career (presently a trainee Big 4 auditor and strongly considering a move into strategy consulting/IBD shortly after qualifying). But I still can't justify the ROI on many of these top MBAs. Not only do you need to fork out at least £40,000 - you're losing out on one to two years of income, valuable work experience and career progression.

Will the stuff you learn on an MBA be more useful than what you get from work?

Will it even get you the job you are looking for?

The opportunity cost is huge. For me the opportunity cost of one year doing an MBA is enormous - well over £100,000. And it doesn't guarantee me the job I am after.

If someone could tell me otherwise, happy to listen.
Original post by sj27
LBS is one of the best MBAs in the world and it's in the UK...

And anyway there are plenty Harvard etc MBAs paid for by non-american companies. You are either at the wrong company, don't have the right experience for Harvard, or your company don't think you're worth it.

If you really have a trust fund that is only enough for either a house deposit or MBA, it seems a bit daft to spend it all on an MBA tbh. Just my opinion.


Agreed.
Original post by Roronoa
Funny, I have similar investments and I'm saving for a deposit on a house!

I have considered doing an MBA at a top university a little later in my career (presently a trainee Big 4 auditor and strongly considering a move into strategy consulting/IBD shortly after qualifying). But I still can't justify the ROI on many of these top MBAs. Not only do you need to fork out at least £40,000 - you're losing out on one to two years of income, valuable work experience and career progression.

Will the stuff you learn on an MBA be more useful than what you get from work?

Will it even get you the job you are looking for?

The opportunity cost is huge. For me the opportunity cost of one year doing an MBA is enormous - well over £100,000. And it doesn't guarantee me the job I am after.

If someone could tell me otherwise, happy to listen.


I'll use the money on a house and wait to find a company to fund it.

Thanks guys.
Reply 14
Original post by Roronoa
But I still can't justify the ROI on many of these top MBAs. Not only do you need to fork out at least £40,000 - you're losing out on one to two years of income, valuable work experience and career progression.

Will the stuff you learn on an MBA be more useful than what you get from work?

Will it even get you the job you are looking for?

The opportunity cost is huge. For me the opportunity cost of one year doing an MBA is enormous - well over £100,000. And it doesn't guarantee me the job I am after.

.


These arguments are precisely why I think it only makes sense to do it if a company is paying for you. (Or a scholarship! But they are fairly rare for MBAs)
Reply 15
Have you considered an MSc Project Management? I am the Head of the Centre for Professional Studies at Royal Holloway, University of London. The Centre has a Project Management programme which is a mixture of theory taught by academics and practical examples by expert practitioners. You will also gain a Prince2 qualification which is industry recognised worldwide.
Royal Holloway has an exceptional careers service which is augmented by the links our lecturers and practitioners have into business. This has lead to a very high level of employment post study. We are approached regularly by companies wishing to employ our students once they have completed their studies. If you want further details let me know.

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