Child Grooming gangs of Pakistani, afganis, iraqis, now Somalis too - whats the Link?

I think banging on about one particular aspect, whether it be their race or religion or whatever, is really just ignoring the complexity of the situation. There seems to be a concious effort to ignore their religious background, though, which obviously also ignores the complexity of the situation. Unless the right and left get over those respective hurdles we're not going to make much progress on why these child grooming gangs seem to come from these particular demographics.

there has been a conscious effort to ignore an islamic background for sure, these people ethnicities have received no such protection. the response of most muslims on this subject has been simply that " pakistanis are abusers because its in their culture, but islamic culture is perfect' - a racist statement in itself, but also a completly false one, because we can see that various other ethnic groups who also have an islamic background, also practice the same.

i think unless the elephant in the room is address, these issues (and perhaps others that can also be traced back to the same influences ) will not be dealt with.

Well, if you're talking about ethnicities, they've often been referred to as 'Asian' which isn't very specific since that includes two thirds of the world's population. Obviously the ethnicity should only matter as far as it indicates their country of origin or culture, but it indicates another way in which the news is portraying information weirdly. And I agree, it's obvious that Islam should not be above criticism, especially in the wake of how much scrutiny Christianity gets for various reasons, but the attitude seems to be that if this effective suppression of legitimate criticism is done for the sake of a vulnerable minority it is somehow justified.

You left out White English.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_Guest_House_child_abuse_scandal

i think abuse by those in political power and public media is another matter altogether and bound by that common factor

Not another matter.

The same matter.

If the police fail to prosecute then it encourages those groups to continue their activities and become worse.

It is the same whether it is Asian or White.

Well, yes, that's a unifying factor but it doesn't change the fact that there may be more underlying factors within subsets of these abuse scandals.

Not another matter.

The same matter.

If the police fail to prosecute then it encourages those groups to continue their activities and become worse.

It is the same whether it is Asian or White.

The authorities probably never anything because if they did it would be 'racist'.

no its different, whereas you point out a consistent factor being white middle aged men in positions of significant power and influence in one matter, it doesnt preclude the islamic backgrounds of groomers in other cases .

and it is not the polices fault that these crimes are committed

Try reading.

I said the consistent factor was the lack of police action.



No. It was their fault that they didn't do their job and catch the known criminals.

take your own advice re reading - police cant deal with crimes unless they are reported - they are not psychics. in both matter the victims did not come forward till now. was jimmy saville a 'known criminal' back then einstein?

There probably are but that's just awful^

No, I really don't think there is.

The Police fail to prosecute for various idiotic reasons because they cannot do their job correctly. That encourages these groups to continue their behaviour.

In the case, of the Political groups and the Jimmy Saville case, it went further and parts of the police were clearly involved in the protection of these individuals.