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C1 simultaneous equation? Difficult

So here is the question:
http://i58.tinypic.com/nl4xgj.png
first part is straight forward however I cannot say I understand the second part to it as well. There are 2 possible answers, 6000pi or 98000pi/27
I have no idea how these answers are reached :/.
The answer to part i is:
h+4r=100
(2*Pi*r*h)+(2*pi*r^2)=1400pi
Can anyone help me out here as I have not a clue.
A reply asap would be great considering I am revising and time is important! Thanks
Original post by Danny.L

A reply asap would be great considering I am revising and time is important! Thanks


That you have two answers might give you a clue that there's a quadratic involved.

So, since the second equation involves mostly r's, I'd find h as a function of r from the first equation, sub it into the second and solve for r.
Reply 2
Original post by ghostwalker
That you have two answers might give you a clue that there's a quadratic involved.

So, since the second equation involves mostly r's, I'd find h as a function of r from the first equation, sub it into the second and solve for r.

so like h = 100-4r ?
because I tried that and ended up with:
200-6r=1400/r
I couldnt get past this, maybe I messed up, but I dunno. Could you possibly try it and see what you came up with?
Original post by Danny.L
so like h = 100-4r ?
because I tried that and ended up with:
200-6r=1400/r
I couldnt get past this, maybe I messed up, but I dunno. Could you possibly try it and see what you came up with?


Multiply through by r, and your quadratic appears.
Reply 4
Original post by ghostwalker
Multiply through by r, and your quadratic appears.

sooo...
200r-6r^2=1400
the answers are in Pi so I have clearly gone wrong..
Original post by Danny.L
sooo...
200r-6r^2=1400
the answers are in Pi so I have clearly gone wrong..


This is just finding r to start with, pi comes in later when calculating the volume.
Original post by Danny.L
sooo...
200r-6r^2=1400
the answers are in Pi so I have clearly gone wrong..


RTQ

This quadratic gives you r

The question then asks for Volume
Reply 7
Rtq?
(edited 9 years ago)
Reply 8
Original post by TenOfThem
RTQ

This quadratic gives you r

The question then asks for Volume

Rtq?
Original post by Danny.L
Rtq?


Read
The
Question

:smile:
Reply 10
Original post by TenOfThem
RTQ

This quadratic gives you r

The question then asks for Volume

how exactly do I get the value for r from this?
I have 100r-3r^2=700
that has 2 unknown factors. How can I work it out?
Original post by Danny.L
how exactly do I get the value for r from this?
I have 100r-3r^2=700
that has 2 unknown factors. How can I work it out?


3r2100r+700=03r^2 - 100r + 700 = 0

Factorise
or
Complete the square
Reply 12
Original post by TenOfThem
3r2100r+700=03r^2 - 100r + 700 = 0

Factorise
or
Complete the square

okay, thanks a bunch.
I got r=-10
&
r=70/3
does that sound right to you?
Reply 13
doesnt seem right to me :/
I now have to do h * Pi*r^2
however to get height I have to do:
h=100-4r
&
100--40=140
so the height would be 40 cm larger than the overall sheet of metal bigger than it which is 1m?
Original post by Danny.L
okay, thanks a bunch.
I got r=-10
&
r=70/3
does that sound right to you?


They should both be positive

(3r - 70)(r - 10) = 0
Reply 15
omg im an idiot. Too late for this crap.
Seen my error, the brackets should be:
(3r-70)(r-10)
Reply 16
Original post by TenOfThem
They should both be positive

(3r - 70)(r - 10) = 0

Thanks a bunch, appreciate the help & patience.
Original post by Danny.L
Thanks a bunch, appreciate the help & patience.


NP

next time - no maths after 10pm :smile:
Reply 18
Original post by TenOfThem

One last question :frown:
Was wondering if you could help? :/
Got the first bit & second bit but for the third, not so much.
I did for the wood:
2y^2 + 7xy = 10000cm
&
6x^2 = 22500cm
so I divided by 6 then rooted and got 61.2 or something along those lines. I looked into the back of my book and they havent even written an answer in for me to check!?
Reply 19
Original post by Danny.L
One last question :frown:
Was wondering if you could help? :/
Got the first bit & second bit but for the third, not so much.
I did for the wood:
2y^2 + 7xy = 10000cm
&
6x^2 = 22500cm
so I divided by 6 then rooted and got 61.2 or something along those lines. I looked into the back of my book and they havent even written an answer in for me to check!?

heres the linkL
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25z6jut&s=8#.VIYp6zGsURk
*nevermind, figured it out, i think*
(edited 9 years ago)

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