Multiculturalism: Do you enjoy it?

Original post by Truths

Me because I actually know what I am talking about.

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Asurat

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Original post by william walker

Culture is language, religion, environment. There is high culture which is art, music, poetry and literature, this comes from culture. However food by no measure can be called culture. Which means cultivation of the soul.

Can't say I agree, but I see where you're coming from, cheers!

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Original post by Drunk Punx

Just to annoy Mr. Protestant up there... more choice of food, yay!

Sue me, bitch :smug:

I live in a predominantly white area, and I'm completely fine with my next door neighbour being Bangladeshi. If everyone who lived in the street was suddenly Bangladeshi I might have a problem with it, but then again the food she cooks always smells lush so I doubt it :h:

Why would more choice in food annoy me? I eat Indian, Chinese, Greek, Italian, Bangladeshi, French, Irish, British mainly food. Why would I have an issue with free trade and voluntary transactions? Indeed we have imported food because of the British Empire, an Empire which I supported.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpo9Bxonq3g

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Original post by Asurat

Can't say I agree, but I see where you're coming from, cheers!

So you don't agree with objective facts then?

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HigherMinion

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I love multiculturalism! It GIVES us culture because the white British are dull and need enriching. I feel euphoric when I contemplate our ability to walk down any street in London and hear hundreds of different dialects and languages- it's great! I can't understand the people or their customs, but I'm sure it'll rub off eventually. Where would we be without kebab and tacos? Fish pie and crumpets? Hah, some meal that is! You can't simply change people's attitudes when they migrate to make us a profit, so why would we attempt to impose on the foreigners our brand of boring Britishness? We should all be whitewashed and have our own flimsy culture erased.

Oh wait, liberals actually believe this.

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Original post by william walker

Culture is language, religion, environment. There is high culture which is art, music, poetry and literature, this comes from culture. However food by no measure can be called culture. Which means cultivation of the soul.

What of the culinary arts?

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Original post by Truths

What of the culinary arts?

If you aren't going to debate with me. I am not going to talk to you.

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Original post by HigherMinion

I love multiculturalism! It GIVES us culture because the white British are dull and need enriching. I feel euphoric when I contemplate our ability to walk down any street in London and hear hundreds of different dialects and languages- it's great! I can't understand the people or their customs, but I'm sure it'll rub off eventually. Where would we be without kebab and tacos? Fish pie and crumpets? Hah, some meal that is! You can't simply change people's attitudes when they migrate to make us a profit, so why would we attempt to impose on the foreigners our brand of boring Britishness? We should all be whitewashed and have our own flimsy culture erased.

Oh wait, liberals actually believe this.

Excellent post. One wonders if Liberals actually have brains and have thought for a second about the issue of government enforced multiculturalism.

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Original post by william walker

If you aren't going to debate with me. I am not going to talk to you.

What debate? You are wrong, sis.

A cuisine (/k w ɪ ˈ z i n / kwi-zeen , from French cuisine, "cooking; culinary art; kitchen"; ultimately from Latincoquere, "to cook") is a style of cooking characterized by distinctive ingredients, techniques, and dishes, and usually associated with a specific culture....

Cuisines evolve continually, and new cuisines are created by innovation and cultural interaction.

A delicacy is a food item that is considered highly desirable in various cultures....

Some delicacies are confined to a certain culture, such as fugu in Japan, bird's nest soup (made out ofswiftlet nests) in China, and ant larvae (escamoles) in Mexico.

Would wikipedia lie?

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Original post by Truths

What debate? You are wrong, sis.

Would wikipedia lie?

I believe you already know the answer to that question.

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Asurat

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Original post by william walker

So you don't agree with objective facts then?

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•

the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.

synonyms:
the arts, the humanities; More

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2.
the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society.
"Afro-Caribbean culture"

synonyms:
civilization, society, way of life, lifestyle; More

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noun: cuisine

•

a style or method of cooking, especially as characteristic of a particular country, region, or establishment.
"much Venetian cuisine is based on seafood"

synonyms:
cooking, cookery, fare, food; More

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food cooked in a certain way.
plural noun: cuisines
"we spent the evening sampling the local cuisine"

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I think I see a link between food and culture somewhere. There is no bold line between culture and cuisine and most people would argue that they are synonymous, dictionaries would too, at least that's how I interpret it.

I didn't reply in a superior manner because the meanings and connotations of words aren't totally objective, as evidenced by your interpretation of the word culture which was alien to me.

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Reply 32

emski

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Original post by william walker

Food has nothing to do with culture. It is a choice based upon free trade.

Google definition: "Multiculturalism" is the co-existence of diverse cultures, where culture includes racial, religious, or cultural groups and is manifested in customary behaviours, cultural assumptions and values, patterns of thinking, and communicative styles."

So surely their culture with the local speciality shops has something to do with it?

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Lady Comstock

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Original post by Truths

This is literally always my 1st thought when I hear complaints about multi culture. I'm always like "what about the food?!" I never felt there was anything more to it lol.

Multiculturalism is a phenomenon from primarily the last fifteen years. It's a political concept/tool/aim that has little to do with cultural diversity.

Diversity in English food has existed for hundreds of years, such as curry which is probably older than fish and chips.

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Lady Comstock

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Original post by emski

Google definition: "Multiculturalism" is the co-existence of diverse cultures, where culture includes racial, religious, or cultural groups and is manifested in customary behaviours, cultural assumptions and values, patterns of thinking, and communicative styles."

So surely their culture with the local speciality shops has something to do with it?

Exotic food, such as curry, was imported hundreds of years ago and would still proliferate in England regardless of the make up of the country. See any Tesco in a rural village in middle England; it still sells curry, stir fry, etc.

I'm not saying I wouldn't want more authentic restaurants/shops, as I prefer a proper curry to that in a Tesco jar. But I think the guy you quoted makes a valid point.

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username1673629

I don't mind either way, it hasn't really had any effect on me so I could live with or without it just as well.

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Original post by Lady Comstock

Multiculturalism is a phenomenon from primarily the last fifteen years. It's a political concept/tool/aim that has little to do with cultural diversity.

Diversity in English food has existed for hundreds of years, such as curry which is probably older than fish and chips.

Political tool to achieve what exactly?

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emski

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Original post by Lady Comstock

Exotic food, such as curry, was imported hundreds of years ago and would still proliferate in England regardless of the make up of the country. See any Tesco in a rural village in middle England; it still sells curry, stir fry, etc.

I'm not saying I wouldn't want more authentic restaurants/shops, as I prefer a proper curry to that in a Tesco jar. But I think the guy you quoted makes a valid point.

But there is a difference, when you get a community of a different faith or in this case nationality, you get more specialised shops, so what if stuff was imported a few hundred years ago or that tesco sells curry, you still get more authentic food. Even in Blackpool there is a shop that sells asian food and it is so much better than tesco!

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Lady Comstock

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Original post by Truths

Political tool to achieve what exactly?

Don't know tbh, you'd have to be a fly on the wall when Labour were forming it as a policy in the late 1990s. David Cameron also referred to "state multiculturalism" in a speech.

That's why I prefer the term "diversity" to refer to different cultural practices, etc. I think "multiculturalism" is too associated with politicians sitting behind desks trying to define it, when it's something that develops organically.

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