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Why do people act like it's impossible for a woman to rape a man?

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I'm talking about rape without physical force... Which exists for women but not men. And I didn't get why that is?
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Reply 21
Original post by Nickierose21
When did I say that this post is kind of bizarre.

Being able to perform doesn't mean consent so I don't get your point.


Well you said:
'Yet it's like if the roles are reversed its not a real offense.'
Why are you spreading that message? Its junk...

No, but being able to perform is going to be hindered by being paraletic.

If the guy can't perform it'll be tricky for the woman to rape him.

So occurances in the situation are likely to be lower.
Original post by askew116
This is the problem. Similar does not equal the same. And I'd argue that the sentence is actually a lot less, as women don't tend to be vilified in the media when convicted of 'sexual assault' as when a man is convicted of rape. They serve their prison sentence and she can then start her life over, whereas men generally cannot, even if fully rehabilitated and remorseful of their crime.


Yeah I feel this happens especially among pedos women tend to get lighter sentences than men.
Original post by Quady
Well you said:
'Yet it's like if the roles are reversed its not a real offense.'
Why are you spreading that message? Its junk...

No, but being able to perform is going to be hindered by being paraletic.

If the guy can't perform it'll be tricky for the woman to rape him.

So occurances in the situation are likely to be lower.


Well that's true unless women are mentally less than men one can deduct if it's not rape for a man its not rape for her. And if it is rape for her than it is for a man. So if a man and a woman have sex and both are intoxicated she can't just say she was raped without saying she also raped him.

Also another situation. If a man is mentally impaired it's less likely to be reported than if the woman is impaired.

My dad was well known to be mentally disabled yet no one cared that my mom was not. Yet if a woman was mentally impaired like that the question would have come up.


As if women are mentally weaker. When we really aren't. What's good for the goose is good for the gander it can't be one sided if you want equal rights and to be seen as equally. That's how I see it.

also a many can get an erection and be too drunk to consent it's not an oxymoron.
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As marshmallow said, in the eyes of UK law, a woman cannot commit rape since it is the act of "penetration", be it vaginally, anally or orally. Since a woman does not have a penis, she cannot legally be classed as a rapist.

Sexual assault however can be committed by both males and females, and therefore a woman may still be tried in court with similar severity to that of a rape crime.
Original post by XMaramena
As marshmallow said, in the eyes of UK law, a woman cannot commit rape since it is the act of "penetration", be it vaginally, anally or orally. Since a woman does not have a penis, she cannot legally be classed as a rapist.

Sexual assault however can be committed by both males and females, and therefore a woman may still be tried in court with similar severity to that of a rape crime.


I'm not in the uk
Original post by SiminaM
Only sexists and feminazi will say that 'men can't be raped'.
Society is ignoring the issue because it doesn't happen that often and because again, the sexist approach: women are sexual prey while men are sexual predators.


I don't know why include feminists as they are usually the ones trying to convince the society that yes, men can be raped... :P

But yeah, no need to include penetration or a penis as a necessary part of rape, like I don't want to be graphic but I can think of many things that one could be forced to do that are sexual, nasty and non-penetrative...
Original post by Nickierose21
I always wondered though if both people are drunk. Then how come the man still gets charged with rape and not the woman?


Can you give me one example where this has happened, because I have NEVER heard of this before?

If both people are drunk, then both people are drunk. A lot of fun and/or deadly embarrassing nights were born that way.

If person A sees a hopelessly drunk person B, and then somehow decides that having sex with that person while they're barely-conscious is a good idea, then that's an act of sexual assault. Idgaf which person has a willy. That ****'s just not right
Original post by Viridiana
I don't know why include feminists as they are usually the ones trying to convince the society that yes, men can be raped... :P

But yeah, no need to include penetration or a penis as a necessary part of rape, like I don't want to be graphic but I can think of many things that one could be forced to do that are sexual, nasty and non-penetrative...


I didn't say feminists. I respect them and I am very thankful for equal rights and everything they fight for.

Feminazi are those women who under the pretext of 'feminism' want to blame men for everything and make them the ultimate scum of the earth by double-standarding the society and turn the world into a big matriarchy.
Original post by SiminaM
Only sexists and feminazi will say that 'men can't be raped'.


It's funny that you say that, because the 'feminazi' I know are the ones who won't shut up about how gender roles are harmful for everybody, especially in that....

Society is ignoring the issue because it doesn't happen that often and because again, the sexist approach: women are sexual prey while men are sexual predators.


...so yeah. Otherwise, I agree with you.
Original post by Aivicore
Though it's categorised as "sexual assault" because (cis) women don't have penises, a conviction would carry similar punishment/time to a man convicted of rape, as far as I'm aware. (Any law folks who can weigh in on this?)

Personally I think it's important to discuss men's issues like the "toxic masculinity" which says "men always want sex, men can't be victims of rape" without trying to sabotage the increasing progressiveness of our understanding of women's rape...


It doesn't carry the same sentence, no.

Rape is triable only on indictment, which means it cannot be tried by a Magistrates court and must be tried by the Crown Court. The sentence is life imprisonment.

Sexual assault can be tried either by magistrates or by the Crown Court. The sentence is imprisonment for between 6 months and ten years, but in theory you might just be fined for it.

If a woman drugged a man and forcibly inserted his penis inside her, she would likely be getting much more than 6 months imprisonment / a fine, but in any event she would not be sentenced to more than ten years in prison.
Original post by SnooFnoo
I thought it wasn't considered rape because a man becoming erect denotes arousal and this consent.

👆 might be out dated though!


Ps I agree it should be gender neutral. However that won't do much for the actual number of rapes against women occurring.


You can be aroused and not want sex.

Or you could be given Viagra

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Original post by молодой гений
It's funny that you say that, because the 'feminazi' I know are the ones who won't shut up about how gender roles are harmful for everybody, especially in that....


This is really out of topic but I will clarify

Spoiler

What if both parties as just as drunk, or what if drunk girl pushes herself on you, so if you DON'T fight her off, then you're a rapist? I mean if you were drunk and signed a contract, it's very hard in a court to prove you didn't know you were doing, and would probably still be enforceable? I mean lots of nights out end with parties drunk to a certain level, so are everyone out there with one night stands all rapists?
Original post by молодой гений
Can you give me one example where this has happened, because I have NEVER heard of this before?

If both people are drunk, then both people are drunk. A lot of fun and/or deadly embarrassing nights were born that way.

If person A sees a hopelessly drunk person B, and then somehow decides that having sex with that person while they're barely-conscious is a good idea, then that's an act of sexual assault. Idgaf which person has a willy. That ****'s just not right


I've heard people say if a woman is really drunk she can't consent end of story without considering the man may have been in the same state. And never have heard it be indicated that if a man is really drunk he can't consent the same statement is rarely used its focused on the woman.
I don't believe it's right to take advantage of people, but the fact is, how do you prove it, what constitutes taking advantage of, like someone depressed having sex with you, is that taking advantage of? Also I heard a story about a drunk girl, walking to her dorm, seeing a security guard whom she initiates flirting with and seducing, and the next morning she charges him with rape. So security guard is just standing there, and this girl comes over to him and starts seducing him, but because she claims she's intoxicated, it's rape then? Do all men/women have to have breathalysers on them?

I mean that's a little different from like someone seeing a person drunk and passed out and having their way with them, which is obviously wrong.
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Original post by Nickierose21
I've heard people say if a woman is really drunk she can't consent end of story without considering the man may have been in the same state. And never have heard it be indicated that if a man is really drunk he can't consent the same statement is rarely used its focused on the woman.


Yeah, if you're so drunk that you cannot even pronounce your own name, then I'd say that you cannot consent.

So, like, if I'm out somewhere and a person who has shown no prior interest in me whatsoever suddenly throws themselves on me, and I can SEE that they're off their face and just need to lie down, then my natural reaction would be to get them home safely, not to **** them. I'd hope it's the same for most people.
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To rape a man requires that his penis be erect.

His penis will not be erect if he is being raped.

It is impossible to rape a man.
Original post by Bruise
To rape a man requires that his penis be erect.

His penis will not be erect if he is being raped.

It is impossible to rape a man.



Another idiot.

You can be erect but not want sex.

And there's this thing called Viagra.

Likewise a woman could use a dildo.

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Reply 39
Original post by XMaramena
As marshmallow said, in the eyes of UK law, a woman cannot commit rape since it is the act of "penetration", be it vaginally, anally or orally. Since a woman does not have a penis, she cannot legally be classed as a rapist.

Sexual assault however can be committed by both males and females, and therefore a woman may still be tried in court with similar severity to that of a rape crime.


Yes they can....

I can penetrate your nose into my mouth.

The act is of penetration, its who is causing the penetration thats in question with regard the offense..

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