BREAKING NEWS: Shots fired at Muhammad cartoonist at free speech meeting

But surely these radicals need to be dealt with? What way would you suggest in trying to clamp down on these nutjobs?
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BBC have the audio up of when the gunmen attacked during a speech:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31472423

Jones represents everything that is wrong with the modern left.

And in fairness to the left, they are the ones who originally pushed for those progressive positions (gay rights, womens' rights) that many on the right now conveniently lay claim to in the fight against radical Islam (having previously opposed them in the most strident terms)

It's a paradox almost.

To fully protect freedoms from these radicals, you would have to severely restrict the freedoms of the radicals.

My personal view is that the right to one's life should trump any other freedom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenden_report

Does the committee look all leftie to you?

It's usually libertarians, not lefties, who provoke real change in respect of equal rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenden_report

Does the committee look all leftie to you?

It's usually libertarians, not lefties, who provoke real change in respect of equal rights.

The Wolfenden Report comes out in 1957. Did the Conservatives act on it? Remind me, which major party passed homosexual law reform? And which party passed Section 28? Which party passed the Sex Discrimination Act?

By the way, there is no serious libertarian strain in British politics. The idea that libertarians have had anything to do with progressive measures legislated in the UOK (many of which libertarians would oppose on principal anyway, believing as they do in the right to discriminate) is laughable

You speak as though those views are universal on the left. I know many leftists these days who are emphatic anti-theists and sick to death of the fascist, regressive forces of fundamentalist Islam

And in fairness to the left, they are the ones who originally pushed for those progressive positions (gay rights, womens' rights) that many on the right now conveniently lay claim to in the fight against radical Islam (having previously opposed them in the most strident terms)

Well, those lefties need to shout louder then because Labour and the Greens never deviate from the apologist line.

You're kidding, right? You really haven't heard of a guy called Tony Blair?

It hasn't been confirmed that the gunman was Muslim so lets wait and see.

It's 500m from where my friend lives. They've been shooting up a synagogue too.

It's 500m from where my friend lives. They've been shooting up a synagogue too.

Not really.

Muslims would prefer atheists spending an eternity in hell rather than a minute in Heaven.

Doesn't sound peaceful.

Not really.

Muslims would prefer atheists spending an eternity in hell rather than a minute in Heaven.

Doesn't sound peaceful.

Brown Muslims attacking white Christians and no mention of 'hate crime' 'racism' 'westernphobia' at all. Rather odd considering I can be called racist for speaking about Muslim pedophile gangs.

Brown Muslims attacking white Christians and no mention of 'hate crime' 'racism' 'westernphobia' at all. Rather odd considering I can be called racist for speaking about Muslim pedophile gangs.

There's an argument for western countries requiring anyone seeking citizenship/asylum in said country to sign a declaration of principles. Include things like a respect for homosexuals and their rights, gender equality, free speech even if critical of religion, a rejection of religious law, support for secular principles etc. Most radical nutjobs wouldn't be signing it, in which case off they go.