Feminism: Why is it so obsessed with men?

They're not becoming part of an oppressive model they're breaking away from one. Were women copying men when they wanted to vote? I really don't understand your point. You're claiming that sports and politics and the corporate world are "man things" whereas shopping and being stay at home parents are "woman things"
This is a huge issue that feminism has being trying to tackle for years. There shouldn't be things that are socially acceptable for men to do and not women. These gender roles shouldn't exist. Women aren't "copying men" they're just getting jobs and playing sports. Are those things exclusive to men?

wow..lol feminism isn't about obsessing over men and competing with them, it's about equality and guess what, it isn't just for women's benefit it is for mens as well. How men are pressured to be 'men' and be strong do all the DIY and like football and beer when some guys like to dance or whatever but are scared their male friends will call them all sorts of names, feminism wants us to be equal, it wants people to feel free and get rid of stereotypes. When a woman is raped, she is scrutinized for what she was wearing instead of the man getting hate, apparently she was 'asking for it', feminism wants to stop victim blaming and instead of teaching young people not to walk alone at night or to make sure they have their drink in their hand at all times, how about teaching people to just not rape? prior to certain laws, men weren't allowed to take time off from work for family or medical related issues but feminism changed that. feminism is for everyone, not just girls. Also, thanks to feminism paternity leave exists.

Because to feminists, men who support patriarchy are the enemy.

The complete abolition of gender roles will be a revolutionary day.

It sounds like you've never had a conversation with a feminist lol. It's about equality and abolishing the idea of social gender stereotypes all together.

That's such an ideal but it's so far from the truth


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Well you're not wrong. That's what it's supposed to be, in my opinion anyway. There are plenty of people who identify as feminist but contradict all of its ideals.
Also another thing the OP is failing to consider is that men can call themselves feminists too

Well you're not wrong. That's what it's supposed to be, in my opinion anyway. There are plenty of people who identify as feminist but contradict all of its ideals.
Also another thing the OP is failing to consider is that men can call themselves feminists too

That's what it's meant to be but in reality it's usually women just concerned with their rights, not making society equal.


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Well there's nothing wrong with them being concerned about their own rights. I think they should be striving to improve womens rights in the work place, reproduction rights, access to safe abortions and birth control. Etc, etc. The problem arises when they don't realise that male stereotypes can be just as harmful. I.e. it's "unmanly" to talk about your feelings/be openly upset. "Men can't get raped" etc.
But in my experience most feminists are about equality, it just happens that the outspoken 'men are pigs' breed of feminists get more attention and attract more controversy.

But by simply campaigning to make women's standing higher you're being sexist which is the very thing you're standing against. I don't think women need any advancement in reproduction rights or he access to safe abortions and contraception, if anyone it's men who need more reproduction rights. In my experience a lot of women like to reap the benefits of being a woman when they can but then complain when they're unfairly treated


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How is that sexist? A cis man will NEVER get pregnant so they don't need the same reproduction rights as women. And that's simply untrue since abortion isn't even legal where I'm from and this year a dead woman was kept on life support basically incubating her 18 week year old foetus for three weeks. So it's just ignorant of you to say women don't need more access to safe and legal abortions. If this issue is big here how do you think it is in developing countries? Why shouldn't we complain when we're being treated unfairly?

Only caring about the advancement of women and ignoring the areas where men are disadvantaged is sexist, especially by the low threshold feminists set.

I didn't claim a man would reproduce, I understand basic biology. I'm speaking about England, advancement of basic human rights is needed in LEDC's and the power of religion needs to be scaled back in others.

I really don't even understand that story you're trying to explain nor the point of it. Women have access to safe abortions in England, in countries where they don't it's because of religion or sub standard medical care.


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I live in Ireland and there is no access to safe or legal abortion here. Yes that is partly because of religion but regardless of the reasons it affects women and they are being denied the right to decide what they do with their bodies. So naturally women are striving to change that? The point of my story was that had the woman not been pregnant she wouldn't have been on life support she would have been allowed to die. Think of how horrible it would be to know that your relative was being kept alive on life support for no reason other than to incubate an infant who had a very low chance of survival anyway. I'm not saying abortion is the only issues feminists are concerned with I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with them focusing on improving women's rights in areas that directly affect them. I'm not saying that women should be better than men, I'm saying that there are areas in which men are better off than women (and vice versa) and feminists want to change that.

Well firstly I was talking about England. The problems with access to abortion in Ireland come from religion, to gain the right to have abortion there needs to be work done on having the state distance itself from Catholicism, that's separate from feminism.

Well if it was my mum and I had to make the choice of have my mum and unborn sibling die or have just my mum die and my as of yet unborn sibling maybe survive that wouldn't be a hard choice at all, the doctors did what was morally right in my opinion.

How can you not see that by simply trying to improve the areas where women are disadvantaged you're not fighting for equality, you're fighting for superiority which is sexism and is the very thing feminist claim to be against




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Yes I said it was to do with religion but it still directly affects women. Therefore it's a feminist issue.
Also she WAS clinically dead she wasn't kept on life support because they thought they could save her. She was dead. She was not coming back. If she hadn't have been pregnant life support wouldn't have been considered. Can you not see how that situation is problematic.
I've also stated a few times that feminists may be fighting for women's rights but they aren't ONLY concerned with these issues. They want equal rights for all sexes. There are some areas that women don't currently have equal treatment in. How is it sexist to try and change that?

My interpretation of feminism was that it's a movement to create equality for women, please correct me if I'm mistaken. If I am indeed not mistaken then correcting an issue created by living in a country which is so traditional and religious is not the battle of feminism.

I'm not disputing that women should have access to abortion, particularly where it's in the interest of her well being. If you'd actually read what I said then you'd see I accepted the woman was going to die but by keeping her on life support the baby could possibly have lived, by keeping her alive the doctors did what is morally right.

Well could you please name me one instance of when feminists fought for equality for men? Feminists are only concerned with enhancing the position of women which is sexist; they are simply interested in correcting the areas where women are disadvantaged and are happy to ignore the areas where men are


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