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Original post by auxja
Just to clarify you are a Pakistani Muslim?
If so, I have been there, and done that. My parents found out, and I faced the consequences that most Pakistani people know of. I also know friends who went through hell, and faced terrible consequences of liking someone, and whatever came after that. It depends on who your parents are, and how they would deal with you. I would think about that first. Secondly I would think about how bad and wrong lying to my parents would be. Thirdly I would think about if the guy is worth lying to my parents for. I mean you know nothing about him, you still have a lot of other important things to do, and if you're a Muslim, you must consider your faith. Getting into relationships behind parents back is so stressful and you lose control of your priorities. It isn't a real or proper relationship. I mean most young Pakistani girls get into relationships, get used and abused. In my opinion to like someone our expectations should be high, and when someone meets those high expectations, you'll know he is worth it. Also don't justify doing haram/sin just because other Muslims do.

Your religion / culture (whichever is appropriate here) sounds pathetic and backwards. I feel sorry for you.
Original post by Drusilla
Your religion / culture (whichever is appropriate here) sounds pathetic and backwards. I feel sorry for you.

same here...do what ur heart wants people!!!
I haven't read the whole thread but I'd just like to say that religion does not define you as a person.
Being a good person is more important than following your religion strictly (I'm a Muslim myself).
Not even the Muslim "priests" (sorry, can't remember the name) follow every Islamic rule. So why should you, a normal teenage girl, bother?

And you should talk to your parents about it, it's not good to hide stuff.

My parents are Muslim and my dad prays 5 times a day, yet he's okay with me having male friends, dating, smoking and wearing the clothes I want to.

We're in the 21st Century so why should we follow rules that were set out for us hundreds and hundreds of years ago? Think about it.
Original post by Anonymous
I haven't read the whole thread but I'd just like to say that religion does not define you as a person.
Being a good person is more important than following your religion strictly (I'm a Muslim myself).
Not even the Muslim "priests" (sorry, can't remember the name) follow every Islamic rule. So why should you, a normal teenage girl, bother?

And you should talk to your parents about it, it's not good to hide stuff.

My parents are Muslim and my dad prays 5 times a day, yet he's okay with me having male friends, dating, smoking and wearing the clothes I want to.

We're in the 21st Century so why should we follow rules that were set out for us hundreds and hundreds of years ago? Think about it.[/Q
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Reply 184
Original post by Drusilla
Your religion / culture (whichever is appropriate here) sounds pathetic and backwards. I feel sorry for you.


Islam - my religion is not the problem. Islam is about peace, love and family. All the backward cultural practices that go on, and all the rules we have to follow, the fakeness just to keep our families name clean - some how they use Islam, well their idea of Islam to justify it all. It's sad and such a shame.
Original post by auxja
Islam - my religion is not the problem. Islam is about peace, love and family. All the backward cultural practices that go on, and all the rules we have to follow, the fakeness just to keep our families name clean - some how they use Islam, well their idea of Islam to justify it all. It's sad and such a shame.


People who follow these cultural practices tend to raise children to follow the same practices, and they then teach their children and the cycle continues.

What do you think can break the cycle? Education provided by societies with better practices?
Original post by miss Peace
I really want to go out with someone in sixth form but because of my religion and culture -I definitely stand no chance of even talking to him


what is the point of doing that? firstly, this might be a factor for you failing your exams. secondly, he might even dump you.. which will hurt
Reply 187
Original post by Drusilla
People who follow these cultural practices tend to raise children to follow the same practices, and they then teach their children and the cycle continues.

What do you think can break the cycle? Education provided by societies with better practices?


For me thankfully I have a mother who resented her culture from a young age, so I was raised in a liberal way. Out of all my cousins I have the most liberal parents, and my parents are educated also.

Yes, you are 100% correct that people with backwards parents, most of the time do turn out like their parents. This is because they are surrounded by people who share the same values as them all the time. It is also because they never find out any better. It is such a shame.

To break the chain firstly people need to talk about it. Nobody talks about it. I am one girl who came from an all girl shool - mostly Pakistani Muslim girls attended this school. Someone along side a hand full of girls who talk about it, and understood and accepted how backwards our culture is. There are probably plenty of people who know how wrong our culture is but are too afraid to talk about it. Also some strict cultured parents can be harsh, so harsh to the point of disowning their child for a stupid reason. Another chain that needs to be broken is the ignorance they all have. They all think their way of life, their love and yearn for status and keeping up appearances, is the right way to live life.

So more people should talk about it. This is tough though because so many people in my generation love their culture and are as backwards as their parents. Education won't work, I don't know. I think people coming together, uniting and not being afraid to speak up would help.
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Original post by Farah_786
what is the point of doing that? firstly, this might be a factor for you failing your exams. secondly, he might even dump you.. which will hurt


Just focus on the negatives, don't worry OP you have the "choice" of an arranged marriage instead.
Reply 189
Original post by miss Peace
plus he's not of the same culture

OP, THATS where the problem lies and you're confused about. Being from the same religion, i sometimes had these type of dilemmas and did not want to hurt my parents. However think it like this and this what a strict muslim told me in mosque; As long as there's no 'friends w/benefits' and/or sexual relationship dating someone is completely fine. Preferably same religion so there's a greater understanding of what to do/not to do. Other cultures is fine too and there's no such thing that says 'kissing or dating' is haram or a sin.

Hope that helps.
Reply 190
Original post by Anonymous
I haven't read the whole thread but I'd just like to say that religion does not define you as a person.
Being a good person is more important than following your religion strictly (I'm a Muslim myself).
Not even the Muslim "priests" (sorry, can't remember the name) follow every Islamic rule. So why should you, a normal teenage girl, bother?

And you should talk to your parents about it, it's not good to hide stuff.

My parents are Muslim and my dad prays 5 times a day, yet he's okay with me having male friends, dating, smoking and wearing the clothes I want to.

We're in the 21st Century so why should we follow rules that were set out for us hundreds and hundreds of years ago? Think about it.




Well sorry to burst your bubble but if you follow Islam strictly you are a Muslim, and Islam defines your life. You can't pick and choose.

You cannot justify doing haram because others do haram. When you die, you will die alone. Only you will be held accountable for your actions. When you're asked why you did this, or why you didn't do that, will your reply be: Oh because other people did it, that's why I did it.

No, it doesn't work like that. If you don't want to follow 'rules that were set out for us hundreds and hundreds of years ago' you can't call yourself a Muslim. Clearly you don't understand Islam and nor do you follow it.

Lastly being a good person entails not lying, not cheating, not stealing, not doing anything to harm another being.
Lol so all Muslims have arranged marriages? Are you okay mate?
Original post by porn induced coma
You don't have to live by rules that were made 1400 years ago for people who were alive 1400 years ago, you are a (I hope) free thinking, progressive human being who realises that the times have changed. And also, I can tell you, that that praise from your parents would mean absolutely nothing if you really weren't happy following those ancient rules. Even if they gave it to you. It would be nothing, and it would leave a sour taste in your mouth. We have the ability to think for ourselves for a reason, no?


Islam is a religion that applies to all times at all times. Did the moral laws we have now not apply 1400 years ago too? Was theft legal? Was murder allowed? No. Your argument that "times have changed" is the same nonesense people use to twist their religion so it fits in with their needs & desires.
Reply 193
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Original post by chemicalelement
Islam is a religion that applies to all times at all times. Did the moral laws we have now not apply 1400 years ago too? Was theft legal? Was murder allowed? No. Your argument that "times have changed" is the same nonesense people use to twist their religion so it fits in with their needs & desires.


Slavery.
The rape of slaves.
Marital rape.
Domestic abuse.
Paedophilia
Polygamy.
Capital punishment for non offences eg sexual orientation, adultery etc.
Sexism, (general oppression and repression of women).

I would be shocked if any of this seems appropriate to you in this day and age. Because it isn't. All things that are permissible in the quran, all things against the laws of this country, and any progressive country! Times have changed.
Original post by Drusilla
Keeping things halal with a bf?
Having a bf isn't halal to begin with. :lol:


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Original post by Anonymous
Oh please juss sdfu

Being behind a screen isn't enough, you also use anonymous to tell that to me. :lol:

Yes, its no surprise when those who sin in their religion get angry when people point out that they're sinning. If you're not going to follow Islams rules, don't consider yourself a Muslim.
Original post by Drusilla
Being behind a screen isn't enough, you also use anonymous to tell that to me. :lol:

Yes, its no surprise when those who sin in their religion get angry when people point out that they're sinning. If you're not going to follow Islams rules, don't consider yourself a Muslim.


Doesnt matter if im behind a screen or not. Your clearly behind a screen for a start off. A person like you will consider everything as a sin & what Islam rules what rules have you made up what having a boyfriend doesnt make you a muslim? Are you daft fam? Maybe you are.... Keep your long lost lecture to yourself. Let people live the way they want to. why is it concerning you?
Original post by Anonymous
Doesnt matter if im behind a screen or not. Your clearly behind a screen for a start off. A person like you will consider everything as a sin & what Islam rules what rules have you made up what having a boyfriend doesnt make you a muslim? Are you daft fam? Maybe you are.... Keep your long lost lecture to yourself. Let people live the way they want to. why is it concerning you?

Obviously we're going to be behind screens, not like either one of us wants to meet up. You using anonymous is :lol: though.

Not everything is a sin :lol: but it's clear that Muslims aren't supposed to have relationships before marriage.
Original post by Drusilla
Obviously we're going to be behind screens, not like either one of us wants to meet up. You using anonymous is :lol: though.

Not everything is a sin :lol: but it's clear that Muslims aren't supposed to have relationships before marriage.


Yeah ok i dont find that amusing somehow but yeah thats your opinion right, everyones got different thoughts about it not all people are going to be like you... like your gon' raise a voice that Muslims aren't supposed to have a relationships before marriage like love its the 21st Century times have changed no point arguing and try to clarify a fact that it isnt aloud. Juss sack it && move on like get da*** ova it.

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