Any guys identify as feminists on here?

I haven't assumed anything. Don't we teach sex ed and consent in schools?

I agree with everything that you said apart from the part about not fighting men's battles too. Men should be able to identify as feminists too and fight with us.

Personally I was never taught about consent.

That is literally what a feminist is.

I meant more along the lines of men saying 'Well if you care so much about equality, why aren't YOU fighting for ME to have this, this and this', which I've encountered a few times. I totally agree that men can identify and ally with feminists and we can fight together - but the together bit is important!

There still isn't full equality in the UK and in the West.
Yep & that applies to both sexes/genders.

Women are still denied abortions in Ireland. This has left many to die in agony from complications, or forced to travel to the UK for a procedure that should be a basic right - and before anyone says 'Oh blah blah sluts using it as contraception', I'm also talking women who need an abortion for a medical reason.
Agree for medical purposes.

It's fine for a newspaper to splash pictures of boobs all over the third page, but wouldn't have been fine for me to breastfeed my daughter in a cafe.
So the 1st page is covering the boobs? What don't women also complain about this?

Ched Evans. Regardless of whether you think he is guilty or innocent, a man is convicted of rape, and after less than three years in prison, is deemed to have 'served his time', and freed to encourage his family, friends and fans to hound his victim into hiding. He isn't arrested for harrassment - he's continuously excused for it.
Was he not free to do this whilst inside?

On a more trivial, but still meaningful, matter - it's starting from such a young age, with some of the world's biggest corporations. It's difficult to find any Big Hero Six merch featuring the female main characters, either on their own or alongside the men. Same for Power Rangers, Fireman Sam etc. Kids don't see male or female, they want something with all the characters on - but we're presumed to believe that women don't belong as superheroes and firefighters. It's a man's job. Similarly, little boys can't get anything with Peppa Pig on, or Frozen - it's unfair on both sides, and there's absolutely no good reason for it.
Stereotypes eh? Or just good business sense. Frozen - Olaf/snowman. Also female Thor, Ghostbusters, MacGyver (& Starbuck!) - if there is £$ to be made, the demand will be filled.
BTW did you see the violence in Tangled, she is quite the saucepan hitter; tying him for a beating.
Until these issues and more are fixed, we can't really call ourselves egalitarians. An egalitarian aim would be to maintain the balance of equality - feminists need to create that equality, before we can maintain it. If you see areas in which men are discriminated against, there is nothing stopping you from starting your own movement to try and correct it, but why should feminists fight your battles too?

I meant more along the lines of men saying 'Well if you care so much about equality, why aren't YOU fighting for ME to have this, this and this', which I've encountered a few times. I totally agree that men can identify and ally with feminists and we can fight together - but the together bit is important!

I only made an account on here a few days ago and I'm a bit shocked at how some guys just seem so sexist. It seems so subtle and common on here, sometimes not so subtle with one forum I read being called something like "what is wrong with girls". It's actually kind of upset me a bit, I had more faith in our generation.

Depends on what kind of feminism.

I have no issue with the textbook definition of feminism, it’s fundamental cores and values of equal rights are not something I disagree with and I wholeheartedly support, however.. I don’t subscribe to the textbook definition of feminism, I feel like that is an outdated description of what feminism is. Feminism has evolved from the original grass roots and is not the static movement a lot of people try to make it out to be and this outdated textbook definition is almost being used as a shield to hide behind to push other theories and agendas.

What I look at and disagree with (do not identify or subscribe to) is the theories that the 21st century feminism presents, what I would define as feminism today is a world view that involves the description of society as a patriarchal construct where men are uniformly privileged for their benefit and women are oppressed/subordinated for men’s benefit, this is going to be the common definition that you will find in women studies courses and gender studies courses and all of these academic feminist pieces in this time period. Unfortunately this type of feminism while subscribing to the patriarchy theory also subscribes to things such as male privilege, female oppression, rape culture, systematic gendered violence against women and all of these theories that don’t really fit the evidence, all of those things are taught in gender studies and women studies and are the basis of scholarly and academic feminism and too a large degree political feminism. I feel like these courses and theories that are being taught brainwash people and are very toxic, they promote and create a very 'us and them' mentality, while also creating tension and discord between the sexes.

Now like I said many people still buy into the dictionary definition of feminism and by that definition of feminism I would absolutely be a feminist but I can’t ignore all of this other sociological and theoretical movement that is really consuming and becoming the new identity of feminism.

Feminism MOSTLY works towards equality for women because it's needed most. Societies have been patriarchal for years, it's only been some decades that women have had some kind of power. And think of all the female-related issues worldwide. Forced marriage, FGM etc. And rape culture which is EVERYWHERE! Females literally have to take safety precautions with everything, it's ridiculous. Of course I'm aware this may never change because there will always be psychos in the world. But at the same time, feminists care for men's rights too, and the rights of transgenders. There's different sectors of feminism, this is the sector I belong to. And I know a lot of others do.

Feminism is equality of both genders.

I'm a feminist, yes.

I think women are capable of more than aping male behaviours, so i don't support the modern feminist movement, which basically reduces women to second rate testosterone wannabes.

True feminists think women have their own path to take.

You realise both men and women say this sort of thing all the time about the opposite gender? Or are you a social justice shill from gawker trying to make women look pathetic by calling them victims. I have a higher view of women than that.

But then they say it's impossible for men to ever be the ones disadvantaged by inequality

Depends on what kind of feminism.

I have no issue with the textbook definition of feminism, it’s fundamental cores and values of equal rights are not something I disagree with and I wholeheartedly support, however.. I don’t subscribe to the textbook definition of feminism, I feel like that is an outdated description of what feminism is. Feminism has evolved from the original grass roots and is not the static movement a lot of people try to make it out to be and this outdated textbook definition is almost being used as a shield to hide behind to push other theories and agendas.

What I look at and disagree with (do not identify or subscribe to) is the theories that the 21st century feminism presents, what I would define as feminism today is a world view that involves the description of society as a patriarchal construct where men are uniformly privileged for their benefit and women are oppressed/subordinated for men’s benefit, this is going to be the common definition that you will find in women studies courses and gender studies courses and all of these academic feminist pieces in this time period. Unfortunately this type of feminism while subscribing to the patriarchy theory also subscribes to things such as male privilege, female oppression, rape culture, systematic gendered violence against women and all of these theories that don’t really fit the evidence, all of those things are taught in gender studies and women studies and are the basis of scholarly and academic feminism and too a large degree political feminism. I feel like these courses and theories that are being taught brainwash people and are very toxic, they promote and create a very 'us and them' mentality, while also creating tension and discord between the sexes.

Now like I said many people still buy into the dictionary definition of feminism and by that definition of feminism I would absolutely be a feminist but I can’t ignore all of this other sociological and theoretical movement that is really consuming and becoming the new identity of feminism.

I'm not a feminist. I'm what I am. I have got many choices to be brainwashed. But feminism? It just failed.

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